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To: Jeffre E tein'eevacation©gmail.com]
From: on behalf of Ben Goertzel
Sent: Tue 2/12/2013 3:51:39 PM
Subject: Re:
Probably so!
But I will send you the "robot child IQ test" proposal today or tomorrow, which
hopefully will NOT be too silly to discuss any further ;)
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Jeffrey Epstein <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
> its too silly to discuss any furter
•
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Ben Goertzel > wrote:
>> Hmmm..
>>
» That is interesting data
>>
>> And certainly, I would be willing to cut my hair for a lot of AGI
» money ;p .... And Ruiting (wife) would rather see me with lots of AGI
>> funding, than see me with the hairstyle that turns her on most...
» However, I am wondering how much difference cutting my hair could
» actually make in the near term anyway.
» I mean, speaking practically: Supposing I cut my hair shorter
>> tomorrow. So what? The Internet is still full of videos of me
>> speaking with the classic long-haired "Ben Goertzel" look. And
>> personality-wise, I'm always going to be somewhat of a hippie and an
>> eccentric guy -- that's just who I am.... Changing my look is an
>> option, but changing my "apparent personality" would require greater
>> acting skills than I possess, even if I wanted to do it...
>>
>> If you organized some important meeting with major philanthropists
>> about funding AGI, I'd of course be willing to cut my hair and buy a
>> nice suit for the meeting, etc. ...
» But apart from that -- if I cut my hair tomorrow, what difference
>> would it make? How would these philanthropists know?
>> I suppose that if I had short hair for a few years, then a critical
>> mass of videos online would appear featuring the new cleaner-cut Ben,
>> and my "image" would look different when people Googled me. But that
» would actually take quite a while, because the videos and online
>> photos occur at conferences and other events which get scheduled at a
» certain rhythm....
>>
>> I'm there in the Ray Kurzweil movie "Transcendent Man" with long hair
>> and a zebra-striped cowboy hat.... And Raj Dye, a guy in LA, is about
>> to release an indie-film documentary called "Singularity or Bust",
>> featuring me and Hugo de Garis in HK and Xiamen in 2009 ... again,
» with the classic long-haired Ben Goertzel.... He screened the film
» privately in LA last weekend, and is now trying to get it in the film
>> festival circuit...
>> Would me having short hair in mid-2013 really matter, if searching for
>> me online brings up a new film with the long-haired Ben playing with
>> talking robots in China? (which I guess it will, once Raj's film makes
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» it onto YouTube)
» I know you have a lot of stuff do to in your life, so I do appreciate
>> you taking time to talk with me about this somewhat silly (but, I
» admit, possibly relevant) topic!!! Obviously I have my own share of
>> human peculiarities, existing in my brain alongside a lot of (IMO)
» really deep and potentially impactful AGI thinking...
•
>> I'm thinking about the "robot child IQ test" stuff this morning,
>> btw.... Mainly, about what order it makes most sense to pursue the
>> child IQ test milestones in, given their own relationships and also
» given the current state of OpenCog development...
• ;)
» ben
>>
>>
•» On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Jeffrey Epstein <jeevacation@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
• > I ve spoken to more than five large philantropists. on really getting
>> > behind AI „ they have gone online , and unfortunatly my bayesian
>> > prediction, came true, there was real interest tempered by unanimous
>> > comments on your dishelveld 80s appearance. I hestitated to write
>> > this, as
>» you should decide if your wifes likes/dislikes are your prioirty, i
>» fully
• > support rebellious tendencies, but thought i should now reiiterate my
>» spinach in the teeth of a friend metaphor.
• >
>> > --
» >
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>> > constitute inside information, and is intended only for
• > the use of the addressee. It is the property of
>» Jeffrey Epstein
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• --
» Ben Goertzel, PhD
>>
>> "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche
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