DOJ-OGR-00004679.pdf
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* Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
* Document 293-3
* Filed 05/25/21
* Page 17 of 34
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* Yes, sir.
* A GRAND JUROR: Is there something that ties in these travel itineraries to the actual fact that there was a meeting or something planned? I mean, where does that tie together? Traveling is not against the law.
* MS. VILLAFANA: Right. The way that we had the indictment organized before was an attempt to do this in chronological order, which seems to be more confusing rather than less confusing.
* So when you look at the -- when you hear the testimony from Special Agent and when you look at the Overt Acts related to the victims and when he went to see them, you'll see that the dates of travel relate to the dates of his meeting with the victims. Does that make sense?
* A GRAND JUROR: Yes.
* BY MS. VILLAFANA:
* Q Is there anything else, Special Agent that I should add to that?
* A No. It will become clear once we testify about the travel count.
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