DOJ-OGR-00012347.pdf

--- Page 1 --- **Document Header** * Case Number: 1:20-cr-00330-PAE * Document Number: 747 * Filed Date: 08/10/22 * Page Number: 62 of 228 **Transcript** LC2VMAX2 1. that when we talk -- there are a lot of studies that are done, 2. national studies, interviewing, say, adults, asking about a 3. whole range of experiences that they've had during the course 4. of their lifetime. And that research has repeatedly 5. demonstrated that when people -- when you ask people if they 6. acknowledge that they've been abused, particularly sexually 7. abused, during childhood, and then you ask them if they ever 8. told anyone, a significant number will say no, not until this 9. interview. And then others will say yes, and then they are 10. asked when they've told. And we know from the research that 11. often they don't tell until adulthood. 12. Q. In your clinical and forensic practices, have you treated 13. and evaluated patients who did not disclose sexual abuse they 14. experienced as children, but disclosed such abuse later? 15. A. Yes. 16. Q. Without getting into any particular anecdotes of your 17. practices, can you explain. 18. A. I'm sorry, can you repeat the question. 19. Q. Yes. Can you just explain -- let me ask it this way: In 20. your own clinical practice, how common, if at all, is it for 21. you to be the first person your patients have told they were 22. abused? 23. MR. PAGLIUCA: Your Honor, I'm going to object to this 24. as not being relevant. 25. THE COURT: Overruled. Thank you. **Footer** SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 **Page Number** Page 62 of 228