DOJ-OGR-00022583.pdf
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1 taking testosterone. Did you ever know him to take
2 any other drugs?
3 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No. I mean, he took
4 pills for his heart, I think, but I don't -- no
5 other -- no substances.
6 TODD BLANCHE: What -- do you know
7 anything about his heart condition? I know we talked
8 about this at, you know, 9:45 this morning. But do
9 you know anything about his heart condition, beyond
10 that you understood he had a heart condition that
11 affected his ability to have sex?
12 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Other than what he
13 told me, no. He never shared anything, but he did
14 take pills. I don't know what -- I don't know
15 anything above that. And like I said, he did the
16 testosterone, which made him mean.
17 TODD BLANCHE: And we're jumping around a
18 little bit.
19 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Sorry.
20 TODD BLANCHE: Sorry. Do you know someone
21 named Donald Barr?
22 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No.
23 TODD BLANCHE: He is -- I can represent to
24 you, was a former headmaster of the Dalton School,
25 which you mentioned earlier.
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