DOJ-OGR-00007285.pdf
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**Case Information**
* Case Number: 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
* Document Number: 467
* Filed Date: 11/15/21
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* Page Number: 106 of 158
* Page Number: 106
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* **Q.**: And then the other one there was no transcript of; is that correct?
* **A.**: That is correct.
* **Q.**: In either of those cases -- well, let me put it the other way. In neither of those cases were you qualified as an expert on grooming, correct?
* **A.**: Grooming is part of the dynamic, well established to be under the rubric of interpersonal violence, so it would fall into the category in which I was declared an expert.
* **Q.**: That wasn't my question. My question was, in neither of those cases were you qualified as an expert in the subject, the specific subject of grooming, correct?
* **A.**: Correct.
* **THE COURT**: Did you testify about grooming in those instances?
* **THE WITNESS**: I testified about grooming in one of those, and I testified about coercive control and dynamics in a relationship in another.
* **Q.**: And how many times have you been actually deposed in your role as a forensic psychologist?
* **A.**: I believe four. I'm not positive, but around that.
* **Q.**: So in your capacity as a forensic psychologist, you've testified maybe six times; is that right?
* **A.**: Correct.
* **Q.**: OK. Now, as a forensic psychologist, you are typically
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* **SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.**
* **(212) 805-0300**
* **DOJ-OGR-00007285**
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