DOJ-OGR-00013373.pdf
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* Case Number: 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
* Document Number: 755
* Filed Date: 08/10/22
* Page Number: 95 of 262
**Transcript of Court Proceedings**
* **MR. PAGLIUCA:** Yes, your Honor.
* **THE COURT:** Just a moment. Okay.
* **BY MR. PAGLIUCA:**
+ Q. Ms. Hesse, do you recall that you knew Epstein liked women, and that women would visit the residence even when Maxwell was not there?
+ A. Yes, that there were women that came to massage, because I've taken messages for them.
* **Q. When Maxwell was not there, right?**
* **A. Right. But I wasn't there to see it, but I've taken a message in reference to massage.**
* **Q. Okay. So you also understood that Ms. Maxwell had another residence in Miami at the time; correct?**
* **A. No, I never knew about a Miami residence, only New York.**
* **Q. And you did know that she had a home in New York, right?**
* **A. That's correct.**
* **Q. Okay. I want to take a look at some of what you've looked at in Government Exhibit -- let's start with 1B, which was the first message pad that you looked at.**
* **MS. MOE:** Your Honor, if I could just have a moment to confer with counsel.
* **THE COURT:** Yes.
* **(Counsel conferred)**
* **Q. I just want to use this page as a general example moving forward, Ms. Hesse.**
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