DOJ-OGR-00016708.pdf

--- Page 1 --- **Document Header:** * Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE * Document 761 * Filed 08/10/22 * Page 225 of 246 * LGVMAX7 * Aznaran - cross **Text Extraction:** Q. I want to talk about people traveling into the United States. In your work you refer to that as inbound travel, right? A. Yes. Q. Based on your review of CBP records and your experience as a CBP officer, if someone was traveling into the United States before September 11th, 2001, would CBP records necessarily reflect that person's travel into the United States? A. Not necessarily. Q. Can you explain why? A. Once again, the recordkeeping and the way that the airlines used to basically operate, I'll go back to APIS, Advance Passenger Information System. Prior to 9/11, it was voluntary for airlines to submit their manifests to APIS. After 9/11 and, more specifically, the most recent update that I'm aware of in, I believe it's 2005, mandated airlines to submit full and complete manifests to CBP using the APIS system. Q. I want to talk about when someone leaves the United States and travels internationally. In your work, you refer to that as outbound travel, right? A. Yes. Q. Based on your review of CBP records and your experience as a CBP officer, if someone was traveling out of the United States before September 11th, would CBP records necessarily reflect that person's travel out of the United States? **Footer:** SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00016708 **Note:** The image appears to be a transcript of a conversation between two individuals, likely in a legal or official setting. The conversation revolves around the topic of travel records and the use of CBP (Customs and Border Protection) records in the United States. The speaker mentions the importance of recordkeeping and the changes made after 9/11, including the mandatory submission of full and complete manifests to CBP using the APIS system. The conversation also touches on the topic of outbound travel and whether CBP records would necessarily reflect a person's travel out of the United States before September 11th, 2001.