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--- Page 1 --- **Document Header** Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 499-2 Filed 11/23/21 Page 55 of 15954 **Case Information** LBAGmax2 **Court Transcript** **THE COURT:** Can you repeat that, please. **MS. POMERANTZ:** The first two sentences of that paragraph starting with "currently" and ending with "has occurred or is occurring." **THE COURT:** Thank you. **BY MS. POMERANTZ:** Q. Dr. Rocchio, what is your response to those two sentences? A. Again, I think that I would not agree with those conclusions. I also think it's important to recognize that this article was published many years ago. And there's certainly been evolutions and additional literature since the time of publication. But even at the time of publication, I think it's a little misleading. If they're defining consensus there as universal agreement as to exact -- everything within the process of grooming, then sure. But when we're talking about any pattern of behavior or any phenomenon within the social science, it's a complicated phenomenon. You're never going to get universal agreement among experts. That's why you have to look at what's the particular definition used within a study. **But most definitely, there's consensus within the scientific literature about the phenomenon not only of grooming, but the phenomenon of child sexual abuse itself, what the experiences are of the victim and what the behaviors are of the offender and also the impact of those behaviors, in terms of the offender and also the impact of those behaviors, in terms of the offender and also the impact of those behaviors, in terms of the offender and also the impact of those behaviors, in terms of the offender and also the impact of those behaviors, in terms of the offender and also the impact of those behaviors, in terms of the offender and also the impact of those behaviors, in terms of the offender and also the impact of those behaviors, in terms of the offender and also the impact of those behaviors, in terms of the offender and also the impact of those behaviors, in terms of the offender and also the 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