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Hi Jeffery
Here is the experiment as given by Fabio.
This is to show that there is an effect so that we can do the full experiment.
Peter
Dear Peter, dear colleagues,
after such clarification I think that we could move further in the experiments along the issues you mentioned
before.
We have studied solutions for the two step experiments (e.g. behavior+GSR+HR or full
neurometric+behavior). We have also conducted the analysis of the hw requirement for the full neurometric
+ behavioral phase. While the raw amount for such hw (for 5 identical EEG systems for 20 days) is about
20K, I do not move forward the analysis on that since we do not know if such experiment will be properly
performed in the future. We focus instead now on the first phase.
First step experiment (behavior+GSR+HR)
1. Logistic
In Rome we could run the experiments. We will have a space in which AF could be physically and visually
separated by the participants to the experience. For this we could have 2 solutions. In fact, we will
purchase 5 different separe for the 5 people, planned to stay in a pentagon arrangement,
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and we could put AF from one side and the other 4 on the other side of the wall having a door between the
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Time for the data collection will be probably early days of October (see below why). A hotel is available
very close to the data collection place in the University.
2. Experimental setup proposed for behavioral + HR + GSR phases
In this first phase, we need to collect the hypothesized correlation between the behavioral activities
proposed to AF and the students, as well as HR + GSR. Apart the issues of how many runs needed and
how many subjects, that will be subjected to a separate email, here I will describe the solutions to be
realized by our team for this experiment.
Devices required
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a. 1 screen used to show to AF the sequence to be provide to the students (e.g. light green or
red for transmission or not) connected to a computer that will send the trigger out related to
the situation proposed to AF.
b. 4 tablets with Windows + ad-hoc board adaptors, able to receive sync triggers. These devices
will run an ad-hoc software we prepared that will present two sliders (perceived light and
perceived strengths) for all the participants to the study but AF. In such a way there will be
able to report any moment the level of perception they have during the experiment. Such
tablets have a software that will synchronize with the external triggers and it will store such
information for the successive analysis. We need to purchase the 4 tablets Windows based
and the related board adaptors to receive triggers for an approximate cost of 3K€ , plus we
need to write down the software for the synchronizing data and run the appropriate tests
before real data collection.
c. A triggerbox for the delivery of TTL triggers from the computer to the tablets and the GSR
and HR amplifier. This triggerbox is needed to provide synchronization across tables as well
as in the future for the acquisitions systems for the neurometrics. Such triggerbox is actually
under construction and testing by an electronic company. Estimated hardware cost by the
company is 2K€.
d. 5 Shimmer amplifiers for HR and GSR detection. Each Shimmer device needs to be coupled
with a card for share synchronization across them. We already have in the lab the 5 Shimmer
devices, we need to purchase only the card related for a cost of around 200 euro all
included.
e. Please note that respiratory belts are not available at this stage since no EEG machines are
required for these tests and the respiratory belts are located on the EEG devices. If needed
they will pose additional issues on the acquisition setup.
3. Time for the execution of the experiments
We need all September to run all the tests between the devices in order to be sure that all
the equipment and software (assembled and created for these tests) will work accordingly.
Some examples of the problems to solve are linked to the max length of TTL cable to the
trigger box, the synchronization devices (trigger box) to realize and test etc etc. Thus, we will
suggest October as the month to proper run all the experiments for this behavioral and
GSR+HR phase.
4. Hardware Budget required
The hardware budget required for run the first phase of the experiments are related to the
setup of the first hardware and software that will be at the base also of the second phase (if
any). Thus, it will be related to the purchase of the following materials (approx.) and related
software
Triggerbox (2k€)
4 tablet Windows + cards (3k€)
5 cards for Shimmer (250€)
5 separe for subjects (500€)
Cables for TTL triggering and connection (about 100€)
This will result in an expense only for the standard hardware about 5.5-6K€. plus the work to write down the
software of synchronization and behavioral data collection and testing the system settings.
5. Total Budget required for proper run phase 1
As far as I understood, there are about 33.8K€ but on 12K€ taxes are to be included. I will ask for 6K for
the hardware for phase I. plus 14K as anticipation on the full amount to pay the people for writing software,
performing the series of behavioral + GSR + HR recordings, setup the experiments along the week that will
be needed. Thus, a total of 20K€ for the proper execution of multiple data collection along a week with AF
and couple of students and "normal' people.
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This will leave about 12K for travel and permanence of people here (e.g. AF, PF, 4 students of AF) for a
week.
However, this is a raw estimate and I do not want to suggest my view on this issue. I just stated the it could
be possible for me with 20K to provide the hw and sw for the data collection for the first phase, by having
the data collected and analyzed within the end of October.
All the best from Rome
Fabio
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Prof. Fabio Babiloni, PhD
Ass. Editor of IEEE Transaction on Neural System & Rehabilitation Engineering
Ass. Editor of IEEE Transaction on Biomedical Engineering
Editor in Chief of International Journal of Bioelectromagnetism
Dept. Molecular Medicine, University of Rome Sapienza
Scientific Director of BrainSigns srl, www.brainsigns.com
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