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-1 of 10 - FD-302 (Rev. 5-8-'0) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of entry 04/23/2020 date of birth (DOB) was interviewed pursuant to a proffer agreement at Present for the interview was attorneys/legal team including along with AUSA IMP AUSA and Special Agent After being advised of the identities of the above listed individuals and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: wanted to provide clarification from her last interview in regards to when she first learned about the investigation into JEFFREY EPSTEIN, saying that her feelings were a progression. received a payment from EPSTEIN in late 2018. In September 2014, an renovated their apartment. and were left with a gutted apartment and they could not get a bank loan. When stopped working for EPSTEIN, they still talked regularly and visited together when he was in town. spoke to EPSTEIN monthly. spoke to EPSTEIN about their situation. asked to borrow money from EPSTEIN. They were waiting for stocks to go public but it kept getting delayed. At the end of November 2018, met EPSTEIN at his New York house and told him about their financials, saying that she only had $100,000 in her bank account. While was meeting with EPSTEIN, he picked up the phone and called his accountant RICHARD KAHN to wire her $250,000. This meeting with EPSTEIN happened because LESLEY GROFF told her to come and meet him if she was in New York. EPSTEIN told not to tell anyone about giving her the money but did not tell her why she should not tell anyone. assumed it was because EPSTEIN did not want to feel bad about it. and kept separate finances. EPSTEIN also gave Invemismkmon 12/04/2019 at New York, New York, United Slates (In. Person) Filet; 50D-NY-3027571 Date shafted 12/05/2019 by This document contains neither recommendations no' conclusions of the FBI. It is the ptopcny of the FBI and is loaned to you, agency; it and its content, are not to be distributed outside your agency. 3501.125-033 CONFIDENTIAL Page 1 of 10 EFTA_00065468 EFTA01246595 FD-302a(Rev.5$10) 50D—NY-3027571 (U) Proffer of Continwation of FD402 of Interview 02 .On 12/04/2019 Page 2 of 10 $100,000 when did not think she received other money from EPSTEIN. told and about having received money from EPSTEIN. called and told her that he gave her $100,000; then told that EPSTEIN gave her money as well. told that EPSTEIN called her and asked her if she could use or needed money. thought that EPSTEIN was just feeling generous with them. would see EPSTEIN once every couple/few months depending on where they both were at the time. told EPSTEIN that "it was rough". EPSTEIN came to Miami to meet with an architect and to help thought this was in early 2018 - months before their conversation in November. had asked EPSTEIN to come to her apartment in Miami. gave EPSTEIN a rundown of the renovations, burn rate, and cash. EPSTEIN told them he did not see how they could keep the apartment, saying it did not all add up. EPSTEIN told her that she cannot put her head in the sand. EPSTEIN told that she would always be safe and he would always take care of her. EPSTEIN sent an email once saying "100% safe". brought up the financial discussion with EPSTEIN. did not know what EPSTEIN wanted to talk to her about when GROFF called. 3501.125-033 CONFIDENTIAL Page 2 of 10 EFTA_00065469 EFTA01246596 FD-302a(Rev.5-840) 50D—NY-3027571 (U) Proffer of ContimathsnofFD-302of Interview 02 .On 12/04/2019 Pagc 3 of 10 did not ask EPSTEIN for money. EPSTEIN had another meeting after he met with thanked EPSTEIN and sent an email after thanking him. lent the money to did not report the money on taxes; was not sure how reporting the taxes worked. understanding was that EPSTEIN would have had to pay the taxes on the money he gave her. In April 2018, was aware of a reporter looking into EPSTEIN. The day the article in the Miami Herald came out she had been aware that someone was looking into EPSTEIN. The article came out before met with EPSTEIN in November. thought that she and EPSTEIN may have acknowledged it but did not talk about it in depth. remembered "skimming" through the article. did not remember what she and EPSTEIN said about the article; it was not a topic of conversation. did not think they talked about it afterwards either. and talked about it, but did not talk specifically about the article. and wanted to figure out the best way to tell their own stories. had thought about writing a book and told EPSTEIN in which he told her it was a good idea. did not associate the $250,000 she received from EPSTEIN to the article from the Miami Herald because EPSTEIN was always so generous to people. was stressed about her finances and felt that EPSTEIN was trying to be helpful. did not know that she viewed it any different currently. had told EPSTEIN that a journalist reached out. did not recall EPSTEIN saying anything about it. EPSTEIN did not tell not to talk to anyone. The first time remembered being on the island after , EPSTEIN asked her to make him a bath and told her to get in with him. was sitting across from EPSTEIN when he told her that EPSTEIN took to the bed and she sat facing him. EPSTEIN directed on what to do and how to touch him. EPSTEIN masturbated. took this to mean that she had to perform sexual favors After this incident, had a lot of sexual contact with EPSTEIN; it was pretty often, it varied, and happened in all locations. EPSTEIN would wake up by beginning to fondle her. 3501.125-033 CONFIDENTIAL Page 3 of 10 EFTA_00065470 EFTA01246597 FD-302a(Rev.5-8-10) 50D—NY-3027571 (U) Proffer of ComimathnnofFD-302of Interview 02 On 12/04/2019 n,g, 4 of 10 There were some situations that involved other people. The first time another person was present it was GHISLAINE MAXWELL. EPSTEIN was laying down. MAXWELL was touching and instructing her on what to do. MAXWELL told where to touch EPSTEIN and how to touch him. Before EPSTEIN went to jail the first time was the last time had any type of sexual contact with him. EPSTEIN would ask to come over and sleep in his bed. EPSTEIN called his "human water bottle". The sexual contact with EPSTEIN phased out. After EPSTEIN went to jail, did not sleep in his bed anymore. The majority of the time, the sexual contact would begin with EPSTEIN waking up by fondling her. EPSTEIN would direct by grabbing her hand to follow him to his room. EPSTEIN would lay down and masturbate. Sometimes, EPSTEIN would touch , tell her how to sit, and how to move her head. EPSTEIN would ask to give him blow jobs. In Palm Beach, EPSTEIN and were working out in the cabana. EPSTEIN was on the bike while was doing sit-ups. EPSTEIN turned the music up loud and put the hurricane shutters up. EPSTEIN "basically" aggressively raped EPSTEIN pulled pants down and had intercourse with her. This was the only time remembered him having intercourse with her. There were two other times, besides the time with MAXWELL, where other people were present during the sexual encounters. There was a time on the island where was present. remembered being on the bed with her while EPSTEIN directed them. There was a time in New York where was present. EPSTEIN asked both of them to come over and it led to a similar situation as had happened on the island with In Palm Beach, the sexual contact with EPSTEIN happened in the gym, and though she could not picture it was sure that it also happened in his room. In New York, EPSTEIN would call over to sleep with him, usually at night. EPSTEIN's "code word" was "cold sheets". In the beginning, EPSTEIN would have sleep over and it turned sexual. When EPSTEIN was with MAXWELL, recalled being afraid that MAXWELL would find out because worked in her building. thought that when EPSTEIN started dating he just had sleep with him with no sexual contact. 3501.125-033 CONFIDENTIAL Page 4 of 10 EFTA 00065471 EFTA01246598 FD-3029(Rev.5-0-10) 50D—NY-3027571 (U) Proffer of ContinuationofFD-302of Interview t2 .Mn 12/04/2019 5 of 10 On the island, the sexual contact occurred in MAXWELL's bedroom. There were also times would draw EPSTEIN baths and she would be in the bath and he would lead her to the bedroom. MAXWELL had approximately four girls, including and on the island for EPSTEIN's birthday. MAXWELL asked them to get naked and wrap themselves in saran wrap. MAXWELL took photos. MAXWELL had a massage table brought down to the beach. MAXWELL had EPSTEIN get on the table with the women surrounding him while she took a photo. All the women were topless. MAXWELL also had them put paint on their breasts to put on a canvas to give to EPSTEIN. thought this happened around January 2002. In Paris, EPSTEIN would have sleep in his bed. EPSTEIN would direct on what to do, how to sit, where to put her shoulders, and how to put her head so that he could not see her face. EPSTEIN told her that he did not want to see her face. EPSTEIN wanted his nipples rubbed. remembered being in his bed after he woke her up in her bed in Paris. stayed with him in Paris. recalled EPSTEIN leading her to his bed in New Mexico. Most encounters in EPSTEIN's bed were with EPSTEIN masturbating. did not recall sexual contact revolving around a massage room or during a massage. EPSTEIN asked to give him two "full proper body" massages, once on the island with a masseuse and once on the ranch when no masseuse was available. massaged EPSTEIN's feet all of the time, along with rubbing his shoulders and cracking his back. described EPSTEIN "directing" her meant that he would tell her how to touch him, where to touch him, and how to sit. Sometimes, EPSTEIN would touch recalled being around during approximately 2002/2003. was present for a sexual encounter on the island. viewed as EPSTEIN's girlfriend. thought was a thought to be in her twenties during this time. recalled being around during approximately 2002/2003. 3501.125-033 CONFIDENTIAL Page 5 of 10 EFTA_00065472 EFTA01246599 FD-302a(Rev.5-0-10) 50D—NY-3027571 (U) Proffer of Continwation of FD-302 of Interview 02 .On 12/04/2019 Page 6 of 10 did not know how and EPSTEIN met. traveled a lot when had started. thought was in college. viewed as EPSTEIN's girlfriend. The sexual encounter involving MAXWELL happened very early on, but did not happen the first time met them. This happened when came back. did not remember how it started, but recalled being on the bed. MAXWELL was naked and told that EPSTEIN liked his nipples rubbed. MAXWELL told what EPSTEIN liked and how to touch him. MAXWELL was rubbing his nipples. MAXWELL touched MAXWELL and did not talk about it afterwards. MAXWELL always made comments and jokes about sex; she was outwardly very open about it. MAXWELL said she had gone to a blowjob class. MAXWELL offered to demonstrate what she learned. MAXWELL discussed this very generally out at the common table. did not remember who was all present for this conversation. did not know if MAXWELL engaged in other sexual contact with other women. When first started, MAXWELL made a comment to her saying, "Listen to what Jeffrey says; he knows what he's doing. He's very successful. You'd do well to listen to what he has to say.". During the sexual encounters with EPSTEIN, felt ashamed. was nervous and scared, not sure what was going to happen. did not feel that she had a choice. did not know where else to go. MAXWELL made a comment about other girlfriends being trash. did not want MAXWELL to put her in that category because she did not want II . MAXWELL was EPSTEIN's girlfriend. MAXWELL approved the bills, ran all of EPSTEIN's houses, and was in control of everything. never told anyone what happened. felt ashamed and buried it deep down. did not know who to tell; all of friends were through EPSTEIN. could not tell her boyfriends because they would get rid of her. One of previous boyfriends was EPSTEIN's paralegal who she met through EPSTEIN. 3501.125-033 CONFIDENTIAL Page 6 of 10 EFTA_00065473 EFTA01246600 FD-302a (Rev. 5-8-10) 50D—NY-3027571 (U) Proffer of ContinuationofFD-302of Interview 02 Mn 12/04/2019 _page 7 of 10 thought that maybe there were times where there was not sexual contact when she traveled with EPSTEIN between 2002 to 2005, but that it happened more than not. described the time where she and EPSTEIN were in the gym was the first time she saw him being aggressive. EPSTEIN seemed to have a rage about him. It was unexpected and out of the blue to had no conversations about sexual boundaries with EPSTEIN. did not want to have sexual contact with him. described EPSTEIN as an overpowering, ominous figure. could feel EPSTEIN's wrath if she did not do what he wanted. EPSTEIN was mad at when she booked a car rental and she did not do exactly as he said. saw him yell at MAXWELL and EPSTEIN dictated hair style, color, and the style of clothes she wore. EPSTEIN had dye her hair blonde, cut it to a "boy cut", and have bangs. Sometimes, EPSTEIN would go to the salon to tell them what to do to hair. EPSTEIN would buy clothes. If wore clothes that EPSTEIN did not like he would ask her where she got them. When bought clothes, she would show EPSTEIN to get his approval. EPSTEIN also dictated to , and III EPSTEIN commented on weight. EPSTEIN would tell to "lay off" the brownies and tell her she should go to the gym. EPSTEIN generally made comments to others as well, including would go to EPSTEIN to get approval for every decision she made. renovated the guest apartments and went to him to get approval for 3501.125-033 CONFIDENTIAL Page 7 of 10 EFTA_00065474 EFTA01246601 FD-3029(Rev.5-8-10) 50D—NY-3027571 (U) Proffer of ComimathsnofFD-302of Interview #2 Mn 12/04/2019 Fags 8 of 10 colors and materials. EPSTEIN knew that had boyfriends because she talked about them. EPSTEIN gave his opinion to her about them. EPSTEIN told her that one of them was a loser and she needed to break up with him. EPSTEIN mostly put her boyfriends down. EPSTEIN still had sexual contact with while she had boyfriends. time with EPSTEIN was a "whirlwind" as they were constantly traveling. EPSTEIN controlled where lived and where she went. They traveled every three days. In 2010, EPSTEIN was released from jail and responsibilities increased. EPSTEIN did not have a chef at this time so was responsible for food when they traveled. was renovating and decorating the rooms on the island and all the apartments at 301 East 66th Street in New York. After EPSTEIN was released, did not recall setting up or scheduling massages for EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN was still getting massages. EPSTEIN traveled with a masseuse, who was did not recall if there were any other masseuse. In 2012, met ; EPSTEIN was not involved in their meeting each other. When met , she began traveling with him. set up a design business. EPSTEIN told she could still help with the renovations. 3501.125-033 CONFIDENTIAL Page 8 of 10 EFTA_00065475 EFTA01246602 FD-302a(Rev.5-8-10) 50D-NY-3027571 WI Proffer of ComimathsnofFD-302of Interview 02 .On 12/04/2019 Page 9 of 10 The first people told about her sexual encounters with EPSTEIN were her lawyers and then her therapist. had two conversations with EPSTEIN about writing a book. There was no conversation about putting the sexual experiences in the book. From 2013 to 2018, received two large payments, $100,000 and $250,000, from EPSTEIN. had to sign a health care proxy so that if anything happened to her, MAXWELL and EPSTEIN would be responsible for her well-being. They did not want her family to be responsible. thought that this was MAXWELL's idea, but she was not sure. also had to sign a confidentiality agreement. visited EPSTEIN when he was under house arrest in Palm Beach. EPSTEIN would get massages from or whoever was traveling. EPSTEIN paid for lawyers for . One of the lawyers was This was after EPSTEIN went to jail and there were civil suits. thought she may have been deposed while he was in jail. When had a lawsuit against MAXWELL, was told by EPSTEIN's in house counsel, DARREN INDYKE to find a lawyer and EPSTEIN would pay for it. paid for some of the expenses of the lawyer. The lawyer was but he eventually stopped representing because he was not getting paid. 3501.125-033 CONFIDENTIAL Page 9 of 10 EFTA_00065476 EFTA01246603 FD-302a(Rev.5•&10) 50D-NY-3027571 (U) Proffer of ConumnionofFDAM2of Interview #2 pa 12/04/201# , Page 10 of 10 Not all subject matter was discussed during the course of this interview. Dates and times are approximate. 3501.125-033 CONFIDENTIAL Page 10 of 10 EFTA_00065477 EFTA01246604