DOJ-OGR-00007295.pdf
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**Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE**
* **Document 467**
* **Filed 11/15/21**
* **Page 116 of 158**
**LBAGmax4**
**Rocchio - Cross**
1. A. Yes.
2. Q. And a parent wants to provide for their child; correct?
3. A. Yes.
4. Q. And a parent wants their child to go to school; correct?
5. A. Usually, yes.
6. Q. And if a parent can afford for school or after-school activities, the parent wants to provide for those activities; correct?
7. A. Many parents, yes.
8. Q. And let's call them good parents, right, good parents want their children to eat; right?
9. A. Yes.
10. Q. Good parents want to buy their children appropriate presents; correct?
11. A. Yes.
12. Q. Good parents want everything they can get for their children in a positive way; correct?
13. A. Good parents want good outcomes for their kids, yes.
14. Q. None of that would be considered grooming absent an intent to use that conduct to manipulate the child; correct?
15. A. Again, the grooming is about the coercion. So to the extent that those behaviors are not being done in a coercive, controlling context, they would not be considered grooming, correct.
16. Q. Have you had mentors in your career?
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