DOJ-OGR-00013304.pdf
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**Case Information**
* Case Number: 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
* Document Number: 755
* Filed Date: 08/10/22
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* Page Number: 26 of 262
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1. fired if they don't.
2. MR. ROHRBACH: I think that would be the source of the obligation is that they would be a fireable offense against the company to be fraudulently obtaining insurance benefits for someone. But if the Court is not persuaded --
3. THE COURT: I don't always find a case on point.
4. You're right, there's a basis to distinguish, but it's pretty directly on point; so I think it shows it would be hearsay in the absence of some verification or some nontruth basis for which you're offering.
5. MR. ROHRBACH: Then I think the government will just offer the other exhibit, your Honor.
6. THE COURT: Okay. 823.
7. MR. ROHRBACH: 823.
8. THE COURT: To the extent there was a relevance objection, I'll overrule the relevance objection.
9. MS. STERNHEIM: Your Honor, may I state it for the record even though I know you're ruling?
10. THE COURT: I'm sorry?
11. MS. STERNHEIM: I would like to state it for the -- in front of the jury.
12. THE COURT: Oh, yes, you can object and I'll overrule.
13. MS. STERNHEIM: Okay.
14. THE COURT: That's fine.
15. MR. ROHRBACH: Your Honor, the case I mentioned
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