DOJ-OGR-00013382.pdf

--- Page 1 --- **Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE** **Document 755** **Filed 08/10/22** **Page 104 of 262** **1809** **LC8VMAX4** **Rodgers - direct** **1** **Mexico?** **2** A. That would have been 1993. **3** Q. And about when do you remember starting to fly to St. **4** Thomas? **5** A. Probably around 1998. **6** Q. I'd like to focus again on the period between 1994 and 2004. During that period, how did you learn about an upcoming flight for one of Mr. Epstein's planes? **7** A. It would be one of several ways. It could be Jeffrey Epstein himself could tell us before we left the plane that we're leaving in two days or two hours or whatever we're doing. **8** It could also be from his secretary. There were times that Ghislaine Maxwell might tell us about when the flight was. **9** Q. Who was Ghislaine Maxwell? **10** A. She worked for Jeffrey Epstein. **11** Q. Based on your observations and time working with her, what were her job responsibilities? **12** A. She had a lot of responsibilities. She was a property manager pretty much for all of his homes that he had, an office manager. She would hire -- or she would interview prospective employees and she would hire employees. She would be -- she would do a lot of purchases for the homes, for the apartments, for the airplanes also, soft goods that you would need in those places. **13** Q. Among Mr. Epstein's employees, where in the hierarchy did **SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.** **(212) 805-0300** **DOJ-OGR-00013382**