DOJ-OGR-00017508.pdf
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* Case Number: 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
* Document Number: 743
* Filed Date: 08/10/22
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Q. And you also talked to her about scheduling maintenance visits for the planes, right?
A. That's correct.
Q. And you talked to her about scheduling your own vacations, right?
A. Yes.
Q. So generally speaking, these were the main interactions you had with Ghislaine regarding employment issues and your job?
A. Yes, that was a good description of a lot of the interaction that I had with Ms. Maxwell; correct.
Q. But now when Ghislaine had time when she wasn't working, she spent time on other pursuits, right?
A. Yes.
Q. She became a trained emergency medical technician, didn't she?
A. I know she had some medical training, yes.
Q. EMT?
A. EMT, yes.
Q. And she also became a trained helicopter pilot, too?
A. Yes, she did.
Q. You, yourself, are a trained helicopter pilot, right?
A. Yes, I am.
Q. And you traveled with Ghislaine when she went to school to become a trained helicopter pilot, right?
A. Yes, we traveled frequently together.
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