DOJ-OGR-00013445.pdf

--- Page 1 --- **Document Extraction** **Case Information:** * Case Number: 1:20-cr-00330-PAE * Document Number: 755 * Filed Date: 08/10/22 **Page Information:** * Page Number: 167 of 262 * Page Number in Image: 1878 **Header:** * Case Number: 1:20-cr-00330-PAE * Document Number: 755 * Filed Date: 08/10/22 * Page Number: 167 of 262 **Footer:** * Southern District Reporters, P.C. * Phone Number: (212) 805-0300 * Document Number: DOJ-OGR-00013445 **Transcript:** Q. All right. And there were also times too when the plane and the passengers had to clear customs, and the pilots and the passengers had to exit the plane, right? A. That's correct. Q. That would happen on international flights, for example? A. Yes. Q. It would also happen when you're leaving St. Thomas too, right? A. Yes, when we -- it would depend. If we were pre-clearing customs at St. Thomas, yes, we would taxi over to the customs area, have to take everything off the airplane and clear customs there. Q. Because even though that's the U.S. Virgin Islands, it's part of the United States, there is a customs clearance you have to do when departing St. Thomas, right? A. That's correct. You could pre-clear. And then if you pre-clear there, we don't have to see customs wherever we're going. However, if we don't pre-clear there, then we have to see customs when we land in the United States. Q. Fair enough. But I guess my point is at any time when you're clearing customs and you've exited the plane with the passengers, you have the chance to see them there too? A. Oh, sure. **End of Extraction**