DOJ-OGR-00022693.pdf

--- Page 1 --- **Document Text Extraction** **Page 146** 1. only -- it's the only one that fit with the flight logs, that when she could be in London and this took place. 2. The second thing is that -- oh, I'm so excited to tell you this. There is a journalist, I know you guys are quite -- well, I don't know. The fake news is at work here. 3. So there's a journalist called Sharon Churcher. There is a lawyer called Brad Edwards. These two -- and there is a Southern District of Florida prosecutor called Villafana. 4. I would very much look forward to showing you the relationship between these three parties that created that story. 5. TODD BLANCHE: Why? Well, without -- putting aside the relationship, why do you think they created that story? 6. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I believe that story was created for the purposes of -- well, there are multiple. The first one is financial, the second one is for the purposes of the CVRA case. The third one was for the serialization, both of her book and in the papers, for the story to attack the Royal Family. 7. And just as a -- 8. TODD BLANCHE: So I think when -- when you were just asked about the photo, you said you actually thought the photo was fake. 9. Do you think it was just mangled or do you think it's a fake -- literally a fake photo? 10. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I believe it's literally a fake photo. 11. TODD BLANCHE: Why do you think that? 12. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Well, first of all, I don't remember it. We'll start -- 13. TODD BLANCHE: But you -- GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Right. Okay. But the outfit I'm wearing -- 14. TODD BLANCHE: Yeah. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: -- is the outfit from my mum's birthday party. 15. TODD BLANCHE: So but you don't have any -- do you dispute that they've met each other? 16. DAVID MARKUS: Do you know whether they've met each other? 17. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I do not know that they met. 18. TODD BLANCHE: Okay. So -- so you not only -- so you think the photograph is fake, but you also are not even positive they actually ever met each other. **Page 147** 1. were just asked about the photo, you said you actually thought the photo was fake. 2. Do you think it was just mangled or do you think it's a fake -- literally a fake photo? 3. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I believe it's literally a fake photo. 4. TODD BLANCHE: Why do you think that? 5. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Well, first of all, I don't remember it. We'll start -- 6. TODD BLANCHE: But you -- GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Right. Okay. But the outfit I'm wearing -- 7. TODD BLANCHE: Yeah. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: -- is the outfit from my mum's birthday party. 8. TODD BLANCHE: So but you don't have any -- do you dispute that they've met each other? 9. DAVID MARKUS: Do you know whether they've met each other? 10. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I do not know that they met. 11. TODD BLANCHE: Okay. So -- so you not only -- so you think the photograph is fake, but you also are not even positive they actually ever met each other. **Page 148** 1. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I'm not. 2. TODD BLANCHE: So you don't have a specific recollection of kind of being at an event or a party or your apartment, or you know, you're flat in London with Prince Andrew and -- REDACTION 3. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Absolutely not. 4. DAVID MARKUS: She doesn't know one way or the other. 5. TODD BLANCHE: Understand that. 6. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I'm just -- I want you to know that -- 7. TODD BLANCHE: No, I know. 8. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I -- the reason why -- I'm not hesitant. I'm not -- I don't have any memory of that, so that -- that's not the issue. The issue is, could Andrew have come to the house to see me or is, could Epstein, and say hi and she had been there? Yes. 9. I can't say that that didn't happen. 10. But what I can absolutely, categorically say is that I never, at any time, set Andrew up to have relations with her or any other human being ever. 11. And I can categorically state that her -- her characterization of whatever may or may not have happened, could -- physically would just not. And plus, I was in the country, so all of that's just not conceivable. 12. TODD BLANCHE: Did you attend -- did you attend social parties over -- and again, I really, now I'm focused 2000 plus, so not -- not the earlier, where Mr. Epstein would host a party or be a big part of the hosting of the party and some of, or many of the young women who were massimmers would be invited to the party, as guests or his entourage would be his house when he would have people who would go there that were -- I call them -- I would -- the way I would think of it and I would characterize it, were his entourage. That's how I thought about it. And that certainly was in the later 2000s, Yes. 13. TODD BLANCHE: Did -- did you attend any weddings of famous people with Mr. Epstein? Again, I'm mostly focused on post -- plus -- post 2000, but if there's something that comes to mind in the '90s, that's fine as well. 14. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: A wedding? 15. TODD BLANCHE: Weddings. 16. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: With Epstein? I don't think I ever went to a wedding with Epstein. I can't think of a wedding that I ever went to within. **Page 149** 1. plus, I was in the country, so all of that's just not conceivable. 2. TODD BLANCHE: Did you attend -- did you attend social parties over -- and again, I really, now I'm focused 2000 plus, so not -- not the earlier, where Mr. Epstein would host a party or be a big part of the hosting of the party and some of, or many of the young women who were massimmers would be invited to the party, as guests or his entourage would be his house when he would have people who would go there that were -- I call them -- I would -- the way I would think of it and I would characterize it, were his entourage. That's how I thought about it. And that certainly was in the later 2000s, Yes. 3. TODD BLANCHE: Did -- did you attend any weddings of famous people with Mr. Epstein? Again, I'm mostly focused on post -- plus -- post 2000, but if there's something that comes to mind in the '90s, that's fine as well. 4. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: A wedding? 5. TODD BLANCHE: Weddings. 6. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: With Epstein? I don't think I ever went to a wedding with Epstein. I can't think of a wedding that I ever went to within. **Footer** **MAGNA Legal Services** **38 (Pages 146 to 149)**