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From: J <jeevacation@gmail.com>
To: Lawrence Krauss
Subject: Re: update
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2018 05:19:53 +0000
I agree with Justin
On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 10:18 PM Lawrence Krauss < > wrote:
Lawrence M. Krauss
Professor
School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department
Arizona State Urivercit 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404
Research Office:
Assistant Jessic
Sent from my iPhone
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From: Justin Dillon
Date: October 8, 2018 at 7:03:32 PM PDT
To: Lawrence Krauss
Subject: Re: update
I disagree. I think having me reach out to their lawyer and say essentially, what the hell, would be useful
pressure that would be expected from anyone who might conceivably sue. If you're not having me make that
call, she's smart enough to know that it's because you're worried about money, which means you are not a
serious litigation threat. As I've said many times, I don't think you are a serious litigation threat, because I
just don't think you want to spend the money, which is understandable. But they don't know that, and I think
it would be useful to bluff this. Again, though, your call.
Justin Dillon
KaiserDillon PLLC
1401 K St. NW
uite 600
Washington. DC 20005
From: Lawrence Krauss
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2018 9:58:24 PM
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To: Justin Dillon
Subject: Re: update
I think we should wait till I make my ask on wed and see how they react. Then it will be time to consider
next action. Right now all I can quarrel about is procedure- why the cancelled meeting if I was going to
speak to the dean anyway. I haven't yet given them my request. Anyway will touch base on Wednesday.
Lawrence M. Krauss
Professor
School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department
Arizona State University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404
Research Office:
Assistant Jessic
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 8, 2018, at 6:19 PM, Justin Dillon < > wrote:
I agree that that's nothing. Honestly, I think you should bring me in now—the fact that I'm not calling their
lawyer right now speaks volumes, and not in a good way for you—but again, totally your call.
Justin Dillon
KaiserDillon PLLC
1401 K Street NW
Suite 600
' 20005
On Oct 8, 2018, at 12:48 PM, Lawrence Krauss < wrote:
The Dean contacted me on the weekend and asked to have a phone meeting regarding conciliation this
morning at 9. (Yes, I know my meeting last week was cancelled because the Dean was not in a position to
negotiate....). We had our phone conversation. He told me the University is ok for me to retire or resign,
my preference, instead of being dismissed, as long as I do it by Dec 31st. My policy was to simply say
oh.. let me consider this, can we talk again.. and we agreed to talk again on Wed. I asked about money,
and he was unclear, although he said if I retired he thought I would get whatever retirement package there
is.. which of course is nothing, and said he didn't think the university would be willing to give money
(which goes against what the conciliation committee said he said when they met him, so maybe he simply
doesn't know). I also asked him about a statement to save face.. since that was my other condition in the
conciliation process.. namely to restore my reputation to some extent. He said he thought the university
would come out with a brief statement saying I had decided to retire.. So basically, his first offer is
nothing at all..
I am going to come up with a counter proposal and will give it to him on Wed and we will see what
happens or whether we have to move forward to the next step.
Buzzfeed contacted me about the state press story, and I responded that I expected to have more
information by friday or monday.
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LMK
Lawrence M. Krauss
Professor
School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department
Arizona State Uniyersit P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404
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