DOJ-OGR-00012364.pdf

--- Page 1 --- **Document Header** * Case Number: 1:20-cr-00330-PAE * Document Number: 747 * Filed Date: 08/10/22 * Page Number: 79 of 228 **Transcript Text** 1. MR. PAGLIUCA: No, your Honor. 2. THE COURT: Okay. So let's go back to that question. 3. So you started by saying grooming the environment. 4. MR. PAGLIUCA: Right. 5. THE COURT: What does this have to do with it? 6. MR. PAGLIUCA: Well, because what that -- what the testimony from Dr. Rocchio was and is, is that the perpetrator is deceiving people around the perpetrator. She talked about the boy scout business and all of that. And that is part of this hindsight -- bias hindsight effect which is referred to in the literature. And I think it's appropriate to bring that out as part of this testimony. **Footer Information** * Southern District Reporters, P.C. * Phone Number: (212) 805-0300 * DOJ-OGR-00012364 **Page Number** * Page 79 of 228 Note: The image appears to be a scanned copy of a court transcript, with the text extracted as described above. The formatting and layout of the document are preserved as closely as possible, with some minor adjustments for readability.