DOJ-OGR-00018693.pdf
epstein-archive court transcript Feb 6, 2026
Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 753 Filed 08/10/22 Page 95 of 264 1521
LC7VMAX3 Carolyn - direct
1 Q. Why did you call her Maxwell instead of using her first name?
2 name?
3 A. Because I couldn't exactly pronounce her first name
4 correctly.
5 Q. When Maxwell greeted you in the kitchen, what, if anything,
6 did Virginia say to Maxwell?
7 A. That I was her friend.
8 Q. Did she say your name?
9 A. Yes.
10 Q. What did she say?
11 A. She said, This is my friend Carolyn.
12 Q. And what did Maxwell say?
13 A. You can bring her upstairs and show her what to do.
14 Q. What happened next?
15 A. We walked up the stairs that were in the kitchen, and we
16 passed a bunch of bedrooms and entered into Mr. Epstein's
17 bedroom, into his bathroom area.
18 Q. Can you describe the bathroom that you went into off of
19 Mr. Epstein's bedroom.
20 A. Yes. When you walk in, there is a sink to your right,
21 there is a dresser to the left, there is a closet area, there
22 is a toilet area, there is a steam room, and then there's a
23 shower.
24 Q. What, if any, seating do you remember?
25 A. There is an ugly polka-dotted couch.
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