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To: Peter Mandelso
From: Jeffrey
Sent: Mon 7/16/2012 7:52:11 PM
Subject: Re:
Number?
Sorry for all the typos .Scot from my iPhonc
On Jul 16, 2012, at 3:43 PM, Peter Mandelson wrote:
Like jcs's wife
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Lord Mendelson
Chairman
From: Jeffrey Epstein
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:56:38 +0100
To: Peter Mandelson
Subject: Re:
and how close are you and agius?
On Mon, Jul 16 2012 at 6:50 AM, Peter Mandelson
wrote:
The chairman, Agius, and the senior independent director, poss next chairman, Mike Rake.
Del missio is before parl select ctte this afternoon.
Lord Mendelson
Chairman
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From: Jeffrey Epstein
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:28:56 +0100
To: Peter Mandelson
Subject: Re:
still there?
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 4:59 AM, Peter Mandelson wrote:
I know as much (little) as anyone else. Who others at Barclays do you mean, left or still
there ?
Global Counsel did an Insight note a week ago. Pasted in below for ease of reading.
9 July 2012
The British banking debate after Bob Diamond
Summary
• Bob Diamond's resignation as Chief Executive of Barclays bank clearly marks a
turning point in the politics of banking in the UK.
• The most significant political and regulatory outcome from these events will be
to renew the debate about universal banking. Whereas to date this debate has
focused on scale, implicit subsidy and systemic risk, it will now focus on culture,
personal character and contamination from the values of the trading floor to the
rest of a banking institution. Because these things cannot be regulated, the
probability is that politicians wilt focus on their proxies, especially pay.
• The gap between the inherent values and perceived risks of retail and
investment banking has been further widened by the events of the last two
months. For leaders of universal banks, especially those who have risen through
investment banking, closing this gap in the mind of political stakeholders poses a
particular challenge. Mr Diamond's belated 'citizenship agenda' at Barclays was
well-conceived, but fatally hobbled by this tension.
• By falling on his sword, Mr Diamond has created the possibility of a
rapprochement between his former bank and British political opinion formers.
The bigger issue for the bank he leaves behind and others like it is how - or if - it
is possible after the crisis to rebuild political and regulatory confidence in the
kind of financial markets businesses he dedicated his career to building and the
people who run and profit from them.
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Bob Diamond's resignation as Chief Executive of Barclays bank clearly marks a
turning point in the politics of banking in the UK. The announcement that Barclay's
was to be fined E290mn as part of a settlement with the FSA financial regulator over
its part in the fixing of the London interbank lending rate between 2005 and 2008
proved the tipping point for Mr Diamond. The Barclay's CEO has long been the most
controversial of Britain's bank leaders and had few political friends. Yet in the end,
the trigger for his resignation was not direct political pressure, but the FSA's
intimation to the Barclay's board that unattributed threats from the top of Barclays
to the Bank of England had made Barclays' relationship with its regulator potentially
toxic.
Mr Diamond's departure and the LIBOR-fixing scandal will mark the start of a new
phase in the politics of the banking crisis in Britain. The suggestion that traders at
Barclays and other banks were manipulating what is ultimately a key public
benchmark for pricing financial products compounds a run of mis-selling and tax
planning controversies. With a Parliamentary enquiry now to take place on the LIBOR
issue in the UK, and the issue likely to ripple across other jurisdictions and produce
both litigation and possible prosecutions, banks in the UK are confronted with new
levels of political and public disdain. The fact that the Bank of England's own
conduct remains subject to question in some aspects of the LIBOR scandal will not
deflect from this.
It is safe to assume that the setting of LIBOR will now be moved into the remit of
the UK financial regulator. Brussels will tighten market abuse rules to apply criminal
sanctions to tampering with indices like LIBOR. But the most significant political and
regulatory outcome from these events will be to renew the debate about universal
banking. Where this debate has to this point focused on scale, implicit subsidy and
systemic risk, it will now focus on culture, personal character and contamination
from the values of the trading floor to the rest of a banking institution. Because
these things cannot be regulated, the probability is that politicians will focus on
their political proxies, especially pay.
The return of Vickers
The link between what has happened at Barclays and the universal banking argument
is trust. Preserving the universal bank model relies on public trust that the core retail
functions of a bank and its trading activities can be properly and completely
segregated. The UK Independent Commission on Banking chaired by Sir John Vickers
proposed in 2011 that they could be preserved in a single institution but in separate
entities, with the retail functions ringfenced with their own higher capital levels. The
Vickers Commission recommended that all derivatives services should be kept outside
this ringfence.
The UK government accepted the argument that retail banks should be able to
maintain some simple derivatives functions such as products for hedging currency risk
for business clients. The Barclays experience is already leading politicians and
commentators in the UK to argue that simple derivatives may be an oxymoron. Trying
to define them may be a futile exercise, and one that will inevitably be gamed by
banks.
The UK government shows some reluctance to revisit its interpretation of the Vickers
proposals. But if the British Parliamentary enquiry into the LIBOR issue now concludes
that the government has erred on the side of trusting banks, then the pressure for an
outcome closer to the original Vickers recommendation, to be written into next year's
Banking Act, will be intense.
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The universal banking debate will take another serious twist if the new leadership of
Barclays ultimately decides to break the bank up into a retail bank and an investment
bank and broker/dealer. As extreme as this sounds, the intangible costs in political and
regulatory animus Barclays now attracts could suggest that a clean break makes sense.
An arrangement that gave existing shareholders a stake in both new institutions might
be acceptable.
Barclays would no doubt sell such a split as a smart commercial move. But the political
and regulatory subtext would be to undermine the case that such banking
agglomerations are both necessary and useful. Although the French and German
commitment to their own universal banking systems is very strong, such a split would
certainly empower critics of the universal banking model in the EU and the US. The
Liikanen Group inquiry is due to report to the European Commission on bank structure
later this year. The Commission itself is then expected to issue its own
recommendations on bank structure. Both will certainly draw on the Barclays
experience.
The culture question
This bigger issue about the values of the trading floor is going to prove hard to shake
off. The role of securities divisions in driving investment bank profits over the last two
decades has predictably seen a generation of securities managers rise to the
leadership of investment and universal banks. While it is perhaps unwise to generalise
too much, most of these men have brought with them the directness and self-belief
that comes with surviving a career on the trading floor.
They also bring with them a view of the market and of market-making that is often at
odds with the way most politicians understand them. Watching Lloyd Blankfein of
Goldman Sachs trying to explain to the US Senate in 2010 why it was legitimate for
Goldman Sachs as a market maker to be both long and short in the US property
market at the same time reinforced the point. There is a yawning gulf between a
trader's pragmatic view of financial markets and a wider political and public audience
who generally interpret the market maker's pragmatism as cynicism, detachment and
short termism, especially when it results in making a lot of money.
Banks tend to be highly impatient with this public and political ambivalence. Most
banks' response to efforts at greater regulation of securities markets have often been
rooted in the argument that these markets are fundamentally a forum for free trade
between consenting adults and should be treated as such. It is this argument that the
LIBOR-scandal, with its taint of market fixing, and the persistent flow of suggestions of
contempt for customers and clients, does so much to undermine.
The events of the last two months have succeeded in cementing for good the idea that
the banking crisis of 2008 was ultimately the result of unethical, 'casino' behaviour on
the trading floor. Whatever failings banks might have exhibited in their ethical
standards here, the reality is that the banking crisis had its roots in poor lending and
risk standards, and poor management of loan book funding, rather than wild gambles
or duplicity in the securities markets. The Vickers Commission explicitly recognised
this by focusing on raising capital standards at the retail banks that make up the
backbone of the British credit system.
Recent huge losses in the Chief Investment Office atl P Morgan and conduct like that
of Barclays' traders have made this distinction far too subtle to insist upon politically.
This may not matter much in regulatory terms — regulators have already embarked on
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a wide range of securities markets reforms. But it will help embed the persistent
political idea that retail banking is inherently 'safe' while investment banking and
securities markets business is inherently 'risky'. To which recent events have added
the taint of suspect ethical conduct.
For universal bank leaders who have come out of the securities world, this is likely to
be part of the challenge of dealing with politicians and regulators over the next few
years. Politicians actively questioned Mr Diamond's credentials to lead a retail bank
when he was appointed Barclays CEO in 2011. His departure leaves an even greater
burden on universal bank leaders to understand the growing political gap between the
skillset desired of retail bank management and the caricature of the men and women
who make a living on the trading desks. Mr Diamond maintained a glass office on the
trading floor at Barcap even after his transition to leadership of Barclays; a gesture
heavy with meaning for his critics.
Mr Diamond's instincts were to close this gap by championing a 'citizenship' agenda
for Barclays. The main problem with this is not the agenda, or the work that was done
by the bank in its name. It was the persistent undermining of this message by the
perceived conduct of the bank itself. Not just questions of culture and character raised
by the admission that traders had sought to manipulate LIBOR rates for personal and
institutional profit and the mis-selling of payments insurance and interest rate hedges
for small businesses. But also fundamental questions over the bank's business model,
the way it rewards its highest earners including Mr Diamond himself, its approach to
its own tax affairs and the 'aggressiveness' of the tax services it provides to clients,
irrespective of their legality. In this, obviously Barclays is far from alone.
Politicians are at something of a loss as to how concretely to address these issues of
values and character and this poses a particular challenge for banks. Culture is hard to
regulate and the public have no real appetite or patience for reassurances that a
renewed rigour from supervisors will fix the problem. The proxies for culture are going
to be pay and senior accountability, and these are the two things that ultimately
tripped up Mr Diamond at Barclays. Although many in banking would like to argue
that these things are beside the point, politically they are the point.
Like much else in the current banking model, the case for remuneration levels in
banking is based purely on the logic and discipline of the free market for financial
services. Yet the bailouts of 2008 and the LIBOR-fixing scandal have further exhausted
political and regulatory patience with the idea that banking exists in a free market.
High levels of remuneration are also glaringly at odds with the wider economic context
and the prevailing political climate. George Osborne, the British Chancellor, has tried
to accommodate London-based investment banks by resisting the rather rigid rules
inserted at the last minute by the European Parliament into the European CRD4
Directive applying ratios for fixed and bonus pay at European banks. But in doing so he
is well aware that he is badly out of step with the public mood.
The accountability problem is as simple and blunt as politics gets. The massive market
disruptions of 2008 and the ensuing economic crisis have created a latent political
desire for personal accountability from the banking industry that it has so far been
unable to meet. In part this is because the most egregiously managed institutions in
the period leading up to 2008 have simply disappeared. The survivors are generally
not inclined to feel implicated in the industry's wider collective problems. Mr Diamond
always seemed to hint at the indignation of an executive whose bank had survived the
banking crisis without direct government support and who felt he had little to answer
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for, at least until his employees' malpractice made this untenable. This is part of what
made him such a lightning rod and figure of resentment for many politicians.
The political fallout
How will this play out politically? The UK's Labour opposition has clearly judged that
there is mileage in a renewed campaign against the bankers. However, although
Labour supports a tightening of the government's proposed rules on derivatives inside
the ringfence for British retail banks proposed for 2013, its ultimate aim is not a
particular regulatory outcome but something closer to a moral posture on capitalism.
Labour leader Ed Miliband has broadly disowned the banking record of the Labour
government before 2010 and has put a "better, improved capitalism" at the heart of
his election platform. This is achieving some resonance in the media. His aim is to use
a moral and ethical critique of banking as a way of differentiating himself and the
Labour party both from its own past and the Conservative-led Coalition government.
The Coalition government inevitably will be forced to cover the same ground.
The Conservative party is much less inclined to make a moral issue of banking, still less
of capitalism more widely. However, most of the very small number of genuinely
forensic critics of the banking sector in the UK Parliament are Tories, and often
individuals with financial services backgrounds. The Chancellor George Osborne
currently seems more inclined to use the LIBOR issue as an opportunity to attack
Labour's record in government, but if other banks are fined and the Parliamentary
enquiry is highly critical, then he will have to tack to stay close enough to the public
mood. His own backbenchers have already started to grumble that he has misjudged
the LIBOR scandal by playing it for politics rather than a question of principle and
policy.
For an industry that is used to justifying its social role largely in terms of taxes paid and
jobs created, this is difficult territory. Assuming that banks accept that there is a need
seriously to tackle and talk about internal culture, providing evidence of this response
is not easy. It will require bank leaders who are more visible, vocal and accountable,
and internal management that is willing to pit the long term interests of institutions
against the short-term culture of the trading floor.
For boards, and in particular the many non-executive board members of banks
charged with providing external oversight of institutional conduct and compensation,
this adds both additional responsibility and additional exposure. It will require a keen
political ear. But it will also require politicians and regulators to engage in a more
subtle debate about culture. And care by politicians that their desire to curb
unacceptable behaviour does not spill over into a threat to the existence and
competitiveness of the banking sector as a whole.
By falling on his sword Mr Diamond has created the possibility of a rapprochement
between his bank and British political opinion formers. The bigger issue for the bank
he leaves behind and others like it is how — or if — it is possible to rebuild political and
regulatory confidence in the kind of financial markets businesses he dedicated his
career to building and the people who run and profit from them.
Ends
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Lord Mandelson
Chairman
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From: Jeffrey Epstein
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:51:18 +0100
To: Peter Mandelson
what do you know of the libor scandal.. do you know the other sat barclay.. lets talk tomorow
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