DOJ-OGR-00017845.pdf
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* **Case Number:** 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
* **Document Number:** 745
* **Filed Date:** 08/10/22
* **Page Number:** 236 of 264
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1. Q. What was her reaction when you asked her for details about those interactions?
2. A. She would just say to me, Matt, the money wasn't fucking free.
3. Q. Did she go beyond that?
4. A. No, she didn't.
5. Q. I believe you testified that you met Jane's family members when you were dating; is that right?
6. A. Yes.
7. Q. Based on your observations during the years that you dated Jane, what was her relationship like with her mother?
8. A. It was rough. It was brutal.
9. Q. Did there ever come a time when you saw Jane confront her mother about Jeffrey Epstein?
10. A. Yes, I did.
11. Q. Approximately when was that?
12. A. I think it was approximately 2011.
13. Q. Where were you when that happened?
14. A. I was at a house.
15. Q. Who was in the room when you had that conversation?
16. A. It was just --
17. MS. STERNHEIM: Objection.
18. Sidebar please.
19. THE COURT: One word, grounds.
20. MS. STERNHEIM: First time we are hearing this.
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