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From: David Sauvage Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 4:59 PM To: Jeffrey E. Subject: Re: I'd need some help with this... especially if it requi=es interacting with 20 people in a row. Am open to whatever. But can't=manage it all on my own. Also I had another idea of how=to still use photos, make it objective and verifiable, and control for the=problem of people being too similar. Something like the below... Jon is my=friend at NYU. What's your guess. In your hea=t of hearts, am I for real or am I delusional? D<=div> Study design id=a #1 Jon gives David 50 pictures without names. David classifies based on their emotions. People who have clear emotions that &quo=;come through" are then put into the experiment People who don't are discarded. Let's say there are 20 pictures left. David classifies them into HAPPY CLUSTER or SAD CLUSTER</=iv> Jon divides the pictures into ten group= of two, so each group of two pictures has one HAPPY and one SAD Jon then reads/shows David one name per group t=at fits either the happy guy or the sad guy David matches A or B Chance put= me at 50% I predict I'll g=t it right 95% If we do this 10 times= I believe I will get 9 or 10 right per cycle We can do lots of cycles =div> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 12:54 PM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.co=> wrote: 4 you said she had brown eyes, it wouldnt appy to just anyone.=C2 you said she was girlie, the dress was a girlie dress. =C2 you said she was rigid, astrolger language. = there were many photos of people in the room, i chose not to =sk you to pick names given in random order. have y=ur subjects write their own desci[tions of themselves . =C2 shy - 1- 10. rigid 1-10. curious 1-10. =C2 then choose who wrote which one. =C2 try 20 people. On=Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:48 AM, David Sauvage <a wrote: Question for you: when I read your lad=-friend in the room, did you feel I was tapping into something real? Or di= you feel I was just saying random stuff that would apply to anyone, like =he astrologer? David EFTA_R1_01440970 EFTA02402848  On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 12:44 PM, =effrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com <mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote: i told them that the astroler in the r=om could tell them their diagnosis. they all received th= exact same piece of paper , however they all rated the astrologer a= between good an perfect On Tue Aug 16, 2016 at 10:39 AM, David Sauvage=< <mailto > wrote: I'm confused. You did an experiment with=200 girls where you held their hands and rating them? Or that's what y=u're suggesting for me? On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 12:30 PM, jeffrey E. <jeevaca=ion@gmail.com <mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote: you dont have to be a scientist to underatnd the concept of pr=of. does massage work? not a sci=nce question , but some think it does. can you prove to =nyone that your intuitive abilities are repeatable. veri=iable, . probably not. but is ok. with=vast experience , chinese doctors can tell if someones kidneys are working=properly, the eyes are a little dull and yellow, =ts not science but a pretty good predictor. . the other =xperiment you can try if you want is hold their hands. write d=wn what you feel. , and afterwards have them choose whic= best describes their charcateristics. I did=this with 200 girls. each one had to rate the accuracy of diag=osisi on a scale of 1-10. the results ranged=from 3-10. however, the written =iagnosis was exactly the same for each, no one like the result= . beliveing is more fun On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 9:57 AM, David =auvage <mailto > wrote: I don't mind anything you&#=9;re saying - I am definitely not a scientist, don't claim to be, and =on't know much about experiments and design. I feel like it'd be good to talk it out? I say what I can do, and=somebody who knows science tells me how we can test that, until we arrive =t a solution that works both ways? Sent from my mobile device=/div> On Aug 16, 2016, at 11:44 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> w=ote: I like y=u, I am trying to be kind, that is not science. . =f you make people feel better and no one is injured , all the best to you.=C2 how about being blindfolded and guessing the=r name. the outcome must be verifiable, not you ar= shy , sometimes. angry other times . the trick of mentarists that do much better than that. they could take a strength=finder test, and then you could take it with empathy for them, =C2 there are 100 questions see if you got the more than 80 =ercent right. 2 EFTA_R1_01440971 EFTA02402849  On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 9:24 AM, David Sauvage < <mailto > wrote: Jeffrey, Just an additi=nal thought. A vision, actually-- What if I did readings bli=dfolded? So I held someone's hand and felt into them. With such limite= visual/tactile information, it would be a real test of my empathic abilit=es. It would almost validate "the sixth sense." </=iv> Then maybe we could compare my ability to read people with an aver=ge person's ability to read people? Jus= brainstorming here... Very best, David=/div> On Mo=, Aug 15, 2016 at 9:28 AM, David Sauvage c. i<1.=» wrote: I would love to do that. Definitely has higher probability of success.=C2 Sent from my mobile device <=r>On Aug 15, 2016, at 8:52 AM, Jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com <mailto:jeevacatio=@gmail.com» wrote: =/div> I greatly appreciatei=the honesty, I dont think will work with pictures. =but might work face to face. if it will work at all. if so =AO I would try 10 women, and ten names. . you willl need=to touch each one. . On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 10:32 PM, David Sa=vage < <mailto:a> > wrote: Hi Jeffrey and Gino, Shy but relatively happy on the outside Filled w=th frustration and anxiety Burning with rage deep down But out of the 15 people, that could vaguely describe 3 or = them. So my matching ending up looking like a convoluted chart. 3 EFTA_R1_01440972 EFTA02402850  What I concluded was that I need a bit more help desi=ning this experiment. Ideally, rather than matching 15 names to pictures, = have a bunch of binary decisions (A or B). One would expect me to get 50%=right. IF the people are emotionally different enough (happy v. sad, for i=stance) I hypothesize I will do considerably better than chance. Does that=make sense? I have started to go down this road w=th my friend at NYU. Happy to discuss with Gino as well. <=r> And of course, happy to submit to MRI machines and the like t= figure what's happening on that end. Open to=any and all thoughts. Science, clearly, is not my gift. Very best, David On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 1:49 PM, David Sauvage <=pan dir="ltru> > > wrote: Hi Jeffrey, Sorry it took a beat to respond. This weekend, when I have =pace and time, I'll ask a friend to lay out some pictures and names an= see how I do. And I'll report back what I learn. I've b=en thinking about this for a while -- and I do feel we ultimately need a m=re rigorous experiment. But I like your idea, at least to start, of just g=ving it a good and seeing. =div style="font-size:12.8px">Great meeting you. David Sent from my mobile device <=r>On Aug 7, 2016, at 6:22 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com <mailto:jeevacation=gmail.com» wrote: <=div> david, if =ou can do the name to photo test. in a 25 picture test.=C2 it could be an interesting begining, I sug=st you take twenty women all availbel on google or facebook an= try. , 4 EFTA_R1_01440973 EFTA02402851  =C2 please note The information contained in this co=munication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may c=nstitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the ad=ressee. It is the property of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or co=ying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibitedand may be unlawful. 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