EFTA00157991.pdf

-1 of 6 - OFFICIAL RECORD FD.302 (Rev. S.g.. IQ) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Ott o ent y 0 1 / 0 4 / 0 21 , date of birth was interviewed at Present in person was attorneys and Also present in person was Assistant United States Attorney Present via phone was Detective IIII and Special Agent After being notified of the identities of the above listed individuals and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: In the first few months of going to JEFFREY EPSTEIN's home, GHISLAINE MAXWELL called her to schedule the massages. When was about 14.5/15 years old it switched to calling to schedule the massages. Every once in a while, MAXWELL would still call gained more of a friendship with when took pictures of her. brought people to EPSTEIN prior to bei nt. became 'want was born in went to EPSTEIN's home a couple times while she was pregnant and went after she had Before became pregnant, EPSTEIN asked her if she anyone her age or younger. thought it was weird. did not hang out with people younger than her. had been going a couple years and when she was starting to show, there was more and more asking for her to bring people. EPSTEIN was the first person to ask her to bring friends. When was pregnant and about to give birth, MAXWELL also asked her, calling her saying something like, "Hi this is Maxwell, I'm calling for Mr. Epstein...wondering if you had found any friends that would interested in coming." EPSTEIN did not want to see anymore. MAXWELL also asked to bring friends in person. When she asked if she had any friends or knew other girls. Before became pregnant, she recalled bringing girls including , and is now deceased. ImmfigaWmon 01/21/2021 at United States (In Person) Hen 50D-NY-3027571 Muth:AM 01/21/2021 by This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It n the properly of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. 3505-081 Page I of 6 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00005925 EFTA00157991 FD•302a (Rev. 5.8.10) 50D—NY-3027571 connnumionw'FD•3020r (U) Interview of - Day 3 .0, 01/21/2021 J aw 2 of 6 While was pregnant, was going to EPSTEIN's with her. had gone to see EPSTEIN when she was pregnant before she was really showing. At around 5 or 6 months, she had a "basketball belly". did not tell EPSTEIN she was pregnant. During the end of the massage when EPSTEIN was masturbating, he saw stomach move and asked her if she was pregnant. went maybe once or twice after having her baby because she needed money for the baby. MAXWELL kind of made feel uncomfortable. described MAXWELL as "older". MAXWELL asked if she had ever been in a strip club. MAXWELL asked if she had ever been to a club. When asked what kind of club, MAXWELL told her strip club. was 17 years old at this time and had worked in a club - .as running an all girls club. MAXWELL asked about her family. told MAXWELL her parents would drink and fight a lot; she also told MAXWELL they used drugs. told MAXWELL she had been raped. did not think MAXWELL cared about it but she told she was sorry to hear about it. At the time of this conversation, was younger. MAXWELL asked if she had every used a sex toy or massager. This is what led up to EPSTEIN trying to use one on her. EPSTEIN was out on his run and MAXWELL came out of the office; the chef was not in the room with and MAXWELL. MAXWELL asked if she had ever used sex toys on herself. MAXWELL randomly asked if touched herself "down there". MAXWELL was nonchalant; it was not stern nor was it an easy-going conversation. During this same conversation, MAXWELL asked if she was sexually active. It was all a part of the same conversation. told MAXWELL that she had a boyfriend and was sexually active with him but had never used a type of object on herself. MAXWELL laughed it off. The conversation stopped when the chef or butler came in the room, saying that EPSTEIN just called and would be back in five minutes. The conversation ended because had to go upstairs to set up the room to massage EPSTEIN. went upstairs and EPSTEIN was there. was using the bathroom and noticed the "thing with round end" on the counter. did not know what it was. At the end of the massage when EPSTEIN started masturbating, he started using it on her. told him she was 3505-081 Page 2 of 6 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00005926 EFTA00157992 FD•302a (Re". 5.8.10) SOD—NY-3027571 conn,,,,,lonoifD•3o2oi (U) Interview of - Day 3 .0, 01/21/2021 " age 3 of 6 not comfortable with that. It seemed connected to since the conversation with MAXWELL and EPSTEIN trying to use a massager on her happened on the same day, but did not think about that at the time. knew sex toys/massagers existed but she had never used one. This was one of the last times had talked with MAXWELL. recalled seeing a lot of naked photographs of MAXWELL in the closet of the massage room. was not sure if any of the girls she brought interacted or had conversations with MAXWELL. Whoever was in the kitchen would let in the door and she would go upstairs to set everything up. would sometimes be doing something and stop to say hi to her. and started going by themselves. EPSTEIN did not like as she was too heavy. The girls did not mention to any conversations they had. When was bringing friends, was the one who was calling to schedule. recalled the chef was a "tall, white guy" and very nice. recalled EPSTEIN's staff changing and the chef changed from him to a chef with a darker complexion. recalled the chef being with a woman and they stayed in a little apartment that was the maid's quarters. They never asked any questions. recalled having four or five different numbers to call for EPSTEIN. When she would call, would say something like, "Hi, this is , I was wondering if I could meet with Mr. Epstein if he was available." Sometimes would be told that someone would call her back and other times she would be told EPSTEIN was available. Numbers that they had for included her cell phone, her mother's cell phone, her house number, and house number. did not have a cell phone number; he used cell phone sometimes. was always around when used her cell phone. advised did not answer her cell phone. would answer his phone and tell that "It's Jeffrey, tell them you're available." told to say she was available because they needed money to buy weed. and would hang out with a couple times after they went to see EPSTEIN because they would all smoke 3505-081 Page 3 of 6 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00005927 EFTA00157993 FD•302a(Re". 5.8.(0) 50O-NY-3027571 connnuanon or FD.392 or (U) Interview of - Day 3 .0, 01/21/2021 ,page 4 of 6 weed together. thought was with her the first two times she went and that was it. The second time took to see EPSTEIN, told her that they were asking for her phone number. told to give it to them so they could call her to come over. said something like, "Oh I don't have to come with you". and were older than was not sure when left. She could not get a hold of and was worried about her. asked EPSTEIN if he had heard from . EPSTEIN told was worried and thought something bad had happened. traveled with EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN told that he took on a couple trips with him. EPSTEIN asked if she wanted to go on any trips and she told him she could not go. did not know if knew what was going on. has recently been in contact with she saw the weekend prior to this interview. tried to talk with about EPSTEIN, saying something like, "Oh your mom is trying to be our best friend because of the EPSTEIN thing". mentioned getting money. told she did not know what was going on. described as a "full-blown alcoholic". Prior to this contact it had been years since had seen her. had spoken with and that is how she reconnected with brought twice. The last time talked with her was around 12 years ago. Presently recalled running a club with an all-girl staff. recalled having a Myspace account with the name ' had no idea what the password would have been. started the account when she was around 13/14 years old and stopped using the account around 21/22 years old. [Agent note: attorney looked up the account online and identified herself in the account.] identified a photo of herself with they were in his trailer and was around 21 years old. recognized in some photographs she would have been 17/18 years old. identified a photograph of herself when she would have been around 16 years old. (Agent note: The photograph where identified herself 3505-081 Page 4 of 6 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00005928 EFTA00157994 FD•302a (Rev. 5.8.10) 500-NY-3027571 commun., of:D•302o1 (U) Interview of - Day 3 .0, 01/21/2021 • pas, 5 of 6 as 16 is attached in a 1A.) recalled the time where EPSTEIN tried to penetrate her twice during a threesome. EPSTEIN did penetrate twice and she told him to stop and he stopped. Then EPSTEIN moved on to having sex with the other girl. When was asked how come she did not mention this in prior interviews or her deposition, advised that she was asked if she had intercourse with EPSTEIN and did not consider that intercourse. In prior interviews was not asked about MAXWELL; she was not brought up important at the time. Everything was about EPSTEIN. advised that she had a very good picture memory. refuses to watch anything about EPSTEIN; if it has to do with EPSTEIN, she turns it off. does not want to know about anyone else as she feels she has her own emotional damage. does not want to watch documentaries on EPSTEIN. referenced that on Netflix, the documentary about EPSTEIN is one of the 10 top things to watch and it sickens her. EPSTEIN hurt very badly. is not comfortable. EPSTEIN is dead while she is alive. is terrified something like what happened to her will happen to her own girls. worries about a man or a woman like MAXWELL coming along and harming her girls. 3505-081 Page 5 of6 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00005929 EFTA00157995 FD•302a (Rev. 53.10) 50D-NY-3027571 connnuation or FD•302 or (U) Interview of - Day 3 .0, 01/21/2021 ,Page 6 of 6 (Agent note: AUSA reviewed a draft of this 302 before it was finalized.) 3505.081 Page 6 of6 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00005930 EFTA00157996