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From: Lesley Groff <lesleyjee®gmail.com>
To: Jefffrey Epstein <jeevacation@gmail.com>
Subject: Fwd: Melody Group Presentation
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2018 18:30:07 +0000
Attachments: 01.Tramo2001AnnNYAS.pdf; 04.Plomp1965JASA.pdf; 05.McDermott2016Nature.pdf;
06.Sugimoto2010Primates.pdf; 08.Koelsch2000JCogN.pdf;
Tramo1993.TimbreSplitBrain.pdf; Miller1956PsycholReview.pdf;
DowlingFujitani1971JASA.pdf; HomeworkDueNovl.docx
Begin forwarded message:
From: MARK TRAMO < fr"
Subject: Re: Melody Group Presentation
Date: November 1. 2018 at 2:27:44 PM EDT
To: ROBERT W Fink <
Cc: bau pham < >, Julia Schom
Re: Harmony, Timbre & Melody Seminar tonight -
Fantastic!
A revised sequence of events for tonight's seminar might be:
ACT I: Vertical Harmony
Scene 1. Prelude to presentation of McDermott et al cross-cultural study consonance paper: I have a nice slide
of line amplitude spectra of harmonic intervals (dyads) comprised of pure-tones vs. harmonic complex-tones
(stimuli I used for neural coding experiments/single-neuron recordings in cat auditory-nerve) to explain the
concepts of beating partials and spectral overlap. You demonstrate roughness using Supercollider.
Scene 2. Students present McDermott's cross-cultural study on consonance of isolated intervals (their results
lend support to my 2001 objection to Helmholtz, Plomp & Levelt, and many 20th century psychoacousticians
that consonance is a negative percept that depends on the absence of roughness - plz see attached Homework
assignment for this week and relevant PFDs).
Scene 3. Students present the Sugimoto chimp/consonance paper. (A light paper - I let them choose what they
preferred rather than assigning one - maybe I should%t have! But it's a fun paper anyway.
ACT II: Horizontal Harmony
Scene 1. Prelude to Koelsch et al ERP paper: You teach everyone about Keys, Scales, and Set Theory.
Scene 2. If you think it would help, we then demonstrate what we are thinking when we jam as rock guitarists.
I'm happy to play some I-IV-V rhythm guitar while you play lead, then we tell them how we do it. And teach
them about phrase closure - and why Leonard Meyer invoked the Gestalt principles - Law of of Continuation
and Law of Good Closure - in his classic "Emotion & Meaning in Music" book. (Next week is the Emotion &
Meaning Seminar.)
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Scene 3. Students present Koelsch et al paper
ACT III: Timbre
Scene 1. Your talk on Timbre
Scene 2. Students present my split-bran paper on timbre discrimination and recognition.
Act IV: Melody (if time)
Scene 1. Student's present Miller's Magical Number Seven Plus or Minus Two
Scene 2. Students present Dowling & Fujitani psychology expts on melody
What do you think?
Really looking forward to tonight!!!
Mark
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 8:17 PM, ROBERT W Fink > wrote:
I have the Vox AS30 in my office. We'll need a pedal to crank that thing, or I can bring my Pigtronix amp and do it like the
Kinks did, running the little amp into the big one. That will give them the feeling. I also use SuperCollider on my laptop,
which lets me pile up any sine tones I want (or the students want) to demonstrate the sound of various ratios. We can just
plug it into the sound system in the room.
I'll work up a lithe presentation on timbre, and that can come wherever it needs to in the class. I'll make a PowerPoint to
show some images...
rvif
Robert Fink
Professor IV
Department of Musicology
Chair, Music Industry Program
UCLA
2431 Schoenberg Music Bldg.
Los An eles, CA 90095-1623
On October 29, 2018 at 12:47:43 AM, MARK TRAMO ) wrote:
Yes, please give the 20 mins on Set Theory, Bob! - how fortuitous for us that the Harmony Seminar got
pushed back a bit into the Timbre seminar - How cool is that? Would you like to bring a guitar? I usually
bring a mini-Marshall amp and guitar to demonstrate fifths in power chords ("Smoke On The Water") and
the triton in famous rock riffs (e.g., "God" by Jethro Tull, the "Purple Haze" intro).
I'm with you on the methodological problem of stimulus choice. The same concern holds re: selecting
music in clinical settings. For example, a former colleague at Massachusetts General Hospital did a nice
study with Surgical ICU patients, but he is a European classicist and, of course, prescribed Mozart as the
stimulus. In our Emotion & Meaning Seminar, we present a combined fMRI-PET-psychophysiology paper
by Salimpoor et al - they asked listeners to identify pieces of music (segments therein) that predictably
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evoked "frisson." Because of the stringent selection criterion (who gets chills up the back of the neck
every time they hear a given piece of music?), the yscreened over 200 volunteers and ended up with 8! I use
that paper in part because the brain and autonomic measures are so good and in part because the methods
it: stimuli and subject selection are open to criticism.
Looking forward to Thursday night!
Cheers,
Mark
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 11:35 PM, ROBERT W Fink < > wrote:
Hey, Mark — maybe 'I' should give the 20' on set theory; that was what my MA degree was all about. :) I'll be very
interested in how you present the tonal and atonal theory; that's my old home turf!
I can present some material from the new collection I co-edited — but it will be as much about the social realities of
lone" as the perceptual realties of "timbre.- I can also touch on some of Zach's work and Cornelia Fales's work —
both brain-related -- which appears in the volume.
On the other hand, I gave a conference talk about 2 months ago which made a pretty tough critique of recent work on
music and emotion from the methodological standpoint of stimulus choice. (Too narrow, too casual, too classical.)
That is not as relevant to the issues of the day in your class, but gives an interesting (I hope) perspective on the
general question of music perception research from the POV of a musicologist/theorist who worries about the politics
of canonicity in music.
Whatever works best...
rwf
Robert Fink
Professor IV
Department of Musicology
Chair, Music Industry Program
UCLA
2431 Schoenberg Music Bldg.
Los Angeles, CA 90095-1623
On October 28, 2018 at 8:54:57 PM, MARK TRAMO ) wrote:
Sony - Please discard my previous email and substitute this one.
**ram
Hi everyone - please add Mari to your email list and please connect with her ASAP -
Ideally all of you in the Melody Study Group would meet once or twice all together to discuss the papers and help each other with
your presentations. Please see my Announcement from last week about how to run a Study Group. For example, the student(s)
doing the Miller paper could be the critics/reviewers (like us editors and reviewers in the real world) of the student(s) doing the
Timbre paper, and vice versa.
Although all of you in this week's Study Group should be ready to give presentations this Thus, it is possible that only the Timbre
paper and I or 2 Melody papers will be presented because of time constraints.
The order of "acts" in this week's show is:
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Block NI = Prof Fink gives a talk on Timbre
break
Block #2 = Christina & Guillermo present the split-brain expts on timbre perception -> Q&A w/ Prof Fink -> I introduce the
Harmony Seminar -> McDermott cross-cultural paper -> Sugimoto chimp paper -> I give a 20' talk on Set Theory and the basics
(incl math) of Western tonal harmony
break
Block #3 = Koelsch et al. ERP paper on chord progressions, phrase closure, and expectancy violations -> I introduce the Melody
Seminar -> Miller paper -> if time the Dowling & Fujitani paper.
The other Melody papas I suggested are Samson & Zatorre's human lesion effect experiments and Brosch & Scheich's macaque
microelectrode experiments, but feel free to pursue your interests in other methods and hypotheses by searching The Institute's
eLibrary under Melody (PDFs there for download) or doing your own pubmed.org search via our UCLA library using "melody"
and "brain" as key words and the Library's e-Journal link.
Please share the above with your colleagues in the Melody Study Group.
MJT
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 8:43 PM, MARK TRAMO < > wrote:
Hi everyone - please add Mart to your email list and please connect with her ASAP -
Ideally all of tyou in the Melody Study Group would meet once or twice to discuss the papers and
help each other with your presentations. Please see my Announcement from last week about how to
run a Study Group. For example, the student(s) doing the Miller paper could be the critics/reviewers
(like us editors and reviewers in the real world) of the student(s) doing the Dowling & Fujitani paper,
and vice versa.
Although all of you in this week's Study Group should be ready to give presentations this Thurs, it is
possible that only the Timbre paper and I or 2 Melody papers will be presented because of time
constraints.
The order of "acts" in this week's show is:
Block #1 = Prof Fink gives a talk on Timbre;
Block #2 = I introduce the Harmony Seminar -> McDermott paper -> I give about a 15' talk on the
basics of Western tonal harmony -> the Sugimoto chimp paper is presented;
Block #3 = I introduce the Melody Seminar -> Miller paper -> if time the Dowling & Fujitani paper.
The other papers I suggested are Samson & Zatorre's human lesion effect experiments and Brosch &
Scheich's macaque microelectrode experiments, but feel free to search The Institute's eLibrary under
Melody (PDFs there for download) or do your own pubmed.org search via our UCLA library using
"melody" and "brain" as key words and the Library's e-Journal link.
Please share the above with your colleagues in the Melody Study Group.
MJT
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 8:22 PM, MARK TRAMO wrote:
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Hi Claire - and Guillermo and Christina - The seminar assignments with your and your Group's
names (Seminar 3) are posted in the Announcement Julia posted a few wks ago. Here's the list for
Melody. Your three email addresses are in the header above. May I ask the three of you to post an
Announcement ASAP telling everyone who is presenting what paper for this week's Timbre/Melody
Seminar? Thanks - MJT
• Lucienne Bolser
• Jean-Emmanuel Casseus
• Guillermo Vega Jr
• Christina Sales
• Claire Li
• Mari De Napoli
• Waruguru Ndirangu
• Nazar Flome
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 6:36 PM, Claire Li <clairemli@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Professor Tramo,
Unfortunately, I do not have the contact information of the people in my Study Group who are
going to present the paper on timbre perception. We did not get the chance to share our contact
information within our group. Should I post about my paper presentation preference on the CCLE
page?
Thanks,
Claire
On Oct 28, 2018, at 12:20 PM, MARK TRAMO < > wrote:
Hi Claire - May I ask you to please email me ASAP the name(s) of the student(s) in your Study
Group who is going to present the split-brain paper on timbre perception to Prof Fink this Thurs
after his talk? And please ask her/him/them to email me pronto so I can send them some
additional figures and help them prep for Prof Fink this Thursday.
Also, whether you all decide to present one paper each or team up on paper presentations is up
to you. If you need more Timbre or Melody papers so everyone has a chance to present, please
let me know.
Thank you,
MJT
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 10:48 AM, Claire Li <clairemli@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Professor Tramo,
I am in the Melody group and I was wondering if I could put my name down to present the
Miller paper. I am a CogSci minor, so as you mentioned in your announcement, I thought this
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one would be interesting.
Thanks!
Claire Li
Mark Jude Tramo, MD PhD
Dept of Integrative Biology & Physiology, UCLA College of Letters & Science
Dept of Neurology, David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA
Dept of Musicology, UCLA Herb Alpert School of Music
Director, The Institute for Music & Brain Science
Co-Director, University of California Multi-Campus Music Research Initiative (UC MERCI)
http://www.BrainMusic.org
http://merci.ucsd.edu
Mark Jude Tramo, MD PhD
Dept of Integrative Biology & Physiology, UCLA College of Letters & Science
Dept of Neurology, David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA
Dept of Musicology, UCLA Herb Alpert School of Music
Director, The Institute for Music & Brain Science
Co-Director, University of California Multi-Campus Music Research Initiative (UC MERCI)
http://www.BrainMusic.org
http://merci.ucsd.edu
Mark Jude Tramo, MD PhD
Dept of Integrative Biology & Physiology, UCLA College of Letters & Science
Dept of Neurology, David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA
Dept of Musicology, UCLA Herb Alpert School of Music
Director, The Institute for Music & Brain Science
Co-Director, University of California Multi-Campus Music Research Initiative (UC MERCI)
http://www.BrainMusic.org
http://merci.ucsd.edu
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Mark Jude Tramo, MD PhD
Dept of Integrative Biology & Physiology, UCLA College of Letters & Science
Dept of Neurology, David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA
Dept of Musicology, UCLA Herb Alpert School of Music
Director, The Institute for Music & Brain Science
Co-Director, University of California Multi-Campus Music Research Initiative (UC MERCI)
http://www.BrainMusic.org
http://merci.ucsd.edu
Mark Jude Tramo, MD PhD
Dept of Integrative Biology & Physiology, UCLA College of Letters & Science
Dept of Neurology, David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA
Dept of Musicology, UCLA Herb Alpert School of Music
Director, The Institute for Music & Brain Science
Co-Director, University of California Multi-Campus Music Research Initiative (UC MERCI)
http://tvww.BrainMusic.org
http://merci.ucsd.edu
Mark Jude Tramo, MD PhD
Dept of Integrative Biology & Physiology, UCLA College of Letters & Science
Dept of Neurology, David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA
Dept of Musicology, UCLA Herb Alpert School of Music
Director, The Institute for Music & Brain Science
Co-Director, University of California Multi-Campus Music Research Initiative (UC MERCI)
http://www.BrainMusic.org
http://merci.ucsd.edu
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