DOJ-OGR-00007985.pdf

--- Page 1 --- **Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE** * **Document 499-2** * **Filed 11/23/21** * **Page 117 of 159** * **LBAGmax4** * **Rocchio - Cross** **Transcript:** **Q.** And a parent wants to provide for their child; correct? **A.** Yes. **Q.** And a parent wants their child to go to school; correct? **A.** Usually, yes. **Q.** And if a parent can afford for school or after-school activities, the parent wants to provide for those activities; correct? **A.** Many parents, yes. **Q.** And let's call them good parents, right, good parents want their children to eat; right? **A.** Yes. **Q.** Good parents want to buy their children appropriate presents; correct? **A.** Yes. **Q.** Good parents want everything they can get for their children in a positive way; correct? **A.** Good parents want good outcomes for their kids, yes. **Q.** None of that would be considered grooming absent an intent to use that conduct to manipulate the child; correct? **A.** Again, the grooming is about the coercion. So to the extent that those behaviors are not being done in a coercive, controlling context, they would not be considered grooming, correct. **Q.** Have you had mentors in your career? **A.** Yes. **SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.** **(212) 805-0300** **DOJ-OGR-00007985**