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From: J <jeevacation@grnail.com>
To: Noam Chomsky
Subject: Re:
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2018 14:06:06 +0000
what i am suggesting is that what the term culture means is the same as what consciousness means. culture
can be describes as russell did for consciousness. the physics and math envy habit of trying to measure things
. we experience culture, it is stubborn, transmitted, localized. contains memories. boundaries. dictum. . it
manifests itself in different ways but doesn't have a separate existence. it is like consiousness a human
construct. no more no less. btw, is a mediation date and time set. yet? vincent papers were good except for
the amount to settle.
On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 8:56 AM Noam Chomsky > wrote:
From the point of view of a jihadi, Klan, evangelical Christian, my ultra-orthodox grandfather,.... it's the rest of
the world that's crazy. I think we can do better than just to take the fall-back position that craziness is a value
judgment, but not so easy.
On consciousness, my suspicion is that we'll never do much better than Russell's picture: what we understand
with highest confidence is our own immediate conscious experience. The rest of our intellectual efforts
(science especially) are an attempt to make sense of that (and in the course of doing so, instructs us that our
experience is a construct of our internal modes of cognition acting on an external world that we (naively?)
assume to exist. And it also tells us, I think, that consciousness is a thin and superficial fringe of an internal
mental life that is inaccessible to introspection.
On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 11:39 AM J <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
cultures swept by craziness, isnt it the same for an individual. .. the brain sends signals based on faulty
sensors or information. . to see if the brain is functioning. there are word tests. memory tests. etc. .
why isnt conciousness the property of those things. like culture is to fads etc.
On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 8:09 AM Noam Chomsky < > wrote:
Cultures unfortunately can be swept by craziness. Nazism for example. Or the Great Awakening. We're
in one of those phases now. If there's a charge, it's true, in fact True. Any response is "mansplaining,"
another power play, reinforcing the charge. You've seen I'm sure what happened to Lawrence. Full and
complete response, amounts to zero. Isn't even considered. It's like trying to discuss rationally with
religious fanatics.
Noam
On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 10:41 AM J <jeevacation®gmail.com> wrote:
As the stories get wilder and the writers make the girls younger. prostitution is a tabloid s dream , . I
wondered if having something out in the cyber world that let some people point to rational arguments
might allow some to defend themselves from their wives . " how could you " etc.
I have been exploring the AI world with the cutting edge people. I remind them of your comments re
machines thinking :)/ I thought that culture was the conciousness of a society. tribes were like
self. . media approx transmitters. . It provided constraints and rules for some underlying
interactions.
It doesnt exist in a physical sense but either does conciousness. which it appears to me as an
evolutionary advantage and provides the brain with rules memories. ( culture again ) . and
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constraints. . tribes when attacked , act like a self . . compete like selves. etc. The world we call
physical . follows rules that we have created, most unknowingly. I assume language acts like an
effective transmittier. . some language like adrenaline. some like dopamine. . do some extent the
hormones of the culture. ?
On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 7:20 AM Noam Chomsky < > wrote:
It's a powerful and convincing statement, but my feeling is that it would not be wise to submit it for
publication. Taking the stance of a reader who comes to the matter from afresh, perhaps having heard
some rumors but knowing nothing, the reaction I suspect will be of the "where there's smoke there's
fire" kind. Few are willing to think through the arguments and factual details or to try to adjudicate
conflicting claims. I've seen this happen over and over on other matters -- many years of having been
accused of Holocaust denial, for example.. Ugly and bitter as it is, I suspect the best course now is
not to stir the pot by raising the issue publicly, opening the door to charges and accusations that can no
doubt be answered in the court of logic and fairness -- but that's not the public domain, where
innuendo and suspicion and accusation reign.
Anyway, for what it's worth, that's the way it looks to me, in part on the basis of experience.
The great work that you have been doing speaks for itself. My feeling is that you should keep at it,
and simply develop a thick skin to fend off whatever ugliness breaks through now and then,
diminishing over time.
Noam
On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 8:33 AM J <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
Im considering submitting this to the oped of the wash post id like your thoughts
Sweetheart deal!" So goes the attack on the resolution of the more than a decade ago
federal investigation involving our client Jeffrey Epstein. The attack is profoundly
misplaced, supported neither by the law nor the facts. Nor is it supported by the
structure of our constitutional republic. To the contrary, Jeffrey was subjected to an
extremely aggressive federal intrusion into what would typically be considered a
quintessentially local criminal matter in south Florida. The offense investigated — at
its core, sexual favors for hire — has long been treated as a matter entrusted to laws
of the several States, not the federal government. The conduct — for which Jeffrey
took full responsibility — was a classic state offense and was treated exactly that way
by able, honest prosecutors in Palm Beach County. Nevertheless, without a
request from the state prosecutors, the federal govemment intervened. For their own
opportunistic reasons, many are now criticizing the federal decision-makers at the time,
including now-Secretary of Labor Alex Acosta (then-United States Attorney in south
Florida), for not going far enough.
The critics are wrong on the facts and the law. They also ignore a fact going to the
heart of fundamental fairness: In the decade since paying his debt to society, Jeffrey
Epstein has led a life characterized by responsible citizenship, numerous acts of
generosity and good deeds.
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Here are the true key facts: Jeffrey Epstein, a successful self-made businessman with
no prior criminal history whatsoever, engaged in illegal conduct that amounted to
solicitation of prostitution. That conduct was wrong and a violation of Florida state
law. Although no coercion, violence, alcohol, drugs or the like were involved, some of
the women he paid were under the age of 18. Those facts were carefully assessed by
experienced state sex crime prosecutors who aggressively enforce state criminal laws.
No one turned a blind eye to potential offenses to the public order. To the contrary,
the Palm Beach State Attorney's Office conducted an extensive fifteen-month
investigation, led by the chief of the Sex Crimes Division. Mr. Epstein was then
indicted by the state grand jury on a single felony count of solicitation of prostitution.
During that intense investigation, the state prosecutors extensively gathered and
analyzed the evidence, met face-to-face with many of the asserted victims, considered
their credibility — or lack thereof — and considered the extent of exculpatory
evidence, including sworn testimony from many that they lied about being eighteen
years old to be allowed into Mr. Epstein's home. After months of negotiations, the
state prosecutors believed they had reached a reasoned resolution of the matter that
vindicated the public interest — a resolution entirely consistent with that of cases
involving other similarly-situated defendants. The system worked as it should have.
Then, in came the feds. The United States Attorney's Office extensively and
aggressively investigated whether Mr. Epstein had engaged in a commercial human
trafficking ring, targeted minors, or used the intemet or traveled interstate in the
process. But that's not what this was and that's not what happened. That is precisely
why the federal authorities' ultimate decision to defer prosecution to the state was the
right one.
However, the federally-demanded resolution was not without conditions. The federal
prosecutors insisted on various unorthodox requirements that Mr. Epstein's
experienced defense team had never seen imposed on any defendant anywhere.
Under the federally-forced deal, Jeffrey was required to request that the state
prosecutors demand the imposition of a thirty-month sentence that included both jail
time and the strictest conditions of probation: lifetime sex-offender registration. Those
draconian measures were far more than warranted by the state grand jury's indictment
and would not have otherwise been required under the previously agreed-upon state
disposition. As part of this highly unusual deal, the government required Jeffrey to pay
for a highly experienced group of attorneys to bring claims against him on behalf of a
government list of asserted victims. Jeffrey was required to waive the right to challenge
those claims without being provided the asserted victim's identities by the government
until after he was incarcerated. Importantly, the feds' decision to decline prosecution in
deference to the state in exchange for these extraordinary requirements was reviewed
and approved at the multiple levels of the U.S. Department of Justice. Jeffrey took
full responsibility, complied with the feds' demands, served his sentence, and in the
process was treated exactly the same (including his time served) as any other state-
incarcerated individuals. His conduct while in custody was exemplary, and so
characterized by the state custodial authorities.
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Jeffrey Epstein has paid his debt to society. The challenges to his Agreement with the
Government must also be understood as challenges to the millions Mr. Epstein paid to
the asserted victims and their lawyers pursuant to that agreement. Amongst the
beneficiaries of the Epstein-Federal Government Agreement were the many victims
who collectively received many millions as a result of the conditions imposed on Mr.
Epstein that prevented him from meaningfully contesting civil liability — moneys that
would be at issue if requests to invalidate the agreement were granted.
Our nation faces vitally important challenges, many involving the treatment of women
and basic human dignity. Voices are rightly being raised speaking truth to power,
especially about women in the workplace. But Jeffrey's offenses of yesteryear, which
were entirely outside of the workplace, have long since been redressed by the criminal
justice system. He fully and faithfully has performed every promise and obligation
required of him by state and federal authorities. In the spirit of the bedrock American
belief in second chances and fundamental fairness, that chapter in Jeffreys otherwise-
productive and charitable life should be allowed to close once and for all.
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