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From: Ben Goertzel
To: Jeffrey Epstein <jeevacation@gmail.com>
Subject: Re:
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:51:39 +0000
Probably so!
But I will send you the "robot child IQ test" proposal today or
tomorrow, which hopefully will NOT be too silly to discuss any further
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Jeffrey Epstein <jeevacation®gmail.com> wrote:
> its too silly to discuss any furter
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Ben Goertzel wrote:
>>
» Hmmm..
>> That is interesting data
» And certainly, I would be willing to cut my hair for a lot of AGI
>> money ;p .... And Ruiting (wife) would rather see me with lots of AGI
» funding, than see me with the hairstyle that turns her on most...
» However, I am wondering how much difference cutting my hair could
>> actually make in the near term anyway.
>> I mean, speaking practically: Supposing I cut my hair shorter
>> tomorrow. So what? The Internet is still full of videos of me
>> speaking with the classic long-haired "Ben Goertzel" look. And
>> personality-wise, I'm always going to be somewhat of a hippie and an
>> eccentric guy -- that's just who I am.... Changing my look is an
>> option, but changing my "apparent personality" would require greater
>> acting skills than I possess, even if I wanted to do it...
>> If you organized some important meeting with major philanthropists
>> about funding AGI, I'd of course be willing to cut my hair and buy a
>> nice suit for the meeting, etc. ...
>> But apart from that -- if I cut my hair tomorrow, what difference
>> would it make? How would these philanthropists know? ;-p
>> I suppose that if I had short hair for a few years, then a critical
>> mass of videos online would appear featuring the new cleaner-cut Ben,
>> and my "image" would look different when people Googled me. But that
>> would actually take quite a while, because the videos and online
>> photos occur at conferences and other events which get scheduled at a
>> certain rhythm....
>> I'm there in the Ray Kurzweil movie "Transcendent Man" with long hair
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>> and a zebra-striped cowboy hat.... And Raj Dye, a guy in LA, is about
>> to release an indie-film documentary called "Singularity or Bust",
>> featuring me and Hugo de Garis in HK and Xiamen in 2009 ... again,
>> with the classic long-haired Ben Goertzel.... He screened the film
>> privately in LA last weekend, and is now trying to get it in the film
» festival circuit...
>> Would me having short hair in mid-2013 really matter, if searching for
>> me online brings up a new film with the long-haired Ben playing with
>> talking robots in China? (which I guess it will, once Raj's film makes
» it onto YouTube)
>>
>> I know you have a lot of stuff do to in your life, so I do appreciate
>> you taking time to talk with me about this somewhat silly (but, I
» admit, possibly relevant) topic!!! Obviously I have my own share of
» human peculiarities, existing in my brain alongside a lot of (IMO)
>> really deep and potentially impactful AGI thinking...
» I'm thinking about the "robot child IQ test" stuff this morning,
>> btw.... Mainly, about what order it makes most sense to pursue the
>> child IQ test milestones in, given their own relationships and also
>> given the current state of OpenCog development...
»;)
>> ben
>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Jeffrey Epstein <jeevacation®gmail.com>
» wrote:
>> > I ve spoken to more than five large philantropists. on really getting
>> > behind Al „ they have gone online , and unfortunatly my bayesian
>> > prediction, came true, there was real interest tempered by unanimous
>> > comments on your dishelveld 80s appearance. I hestitated to write
>» this, as
>» you should decide if your wifes likes/dislikes are your prioirty, i
>» fully
>> > support rebellious tendencies, but thought i should now reiiterate my
>> > spinach in the teeth of a friend metaphor.
»>
» > --
»>
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>> > constitute inside information, and is intended only for
>» the use of the addressee. It is the property of
>> > Jeffrey Epstein
>> > Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this
>> > communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited
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» --
» Ben Goertzel, PhD
» http://goertzel.org
>>
>> "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche
>
> The information contained in this communication is
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> constitute inside information, and is intended only for
> the use of the addressee. It is the property of
> Jeffrey Epstein
> Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this
> communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited
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Ben Goertzel, PhD
http://goertzel.org
"My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche
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