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Notes of the Secretary-General's telephone conversation with
H. E. Mr. Ahmet Davutoglu, Foreign Minister of Turkey
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On Tuesday, 16 August 2011, at 8:11 am (NY time)
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Summary of the discussion:
> The Foreign Minister briefed the Secretary-General on his discussions with President
Assad and a number of other Governments about the situation in Syria.
➢ He asked the Secretary-General to call President Assad to encourage him to publicly
announce on Wednesday the measures they had agreed to.
• The Foreign Minister informed the Secretary-General that there had been an
agreement with Israel on the flotilla for a month, but that some were blocking it in the
Israeli Government. If the Cabinet meeting of Wednesday didn't approve the
agreement, Turkey would take the next steps once the Palmer report would be
published on Monday.
Discussion:
The Secretary-General thanked the Foreign Minister for taking his call. He knew he
had been very busy and he wanted to talk to him about two things: Syria and the flotilla panel
report.
On Syria, the Secretary-General expressed his concern that the Syrian authorities
continue to ignore calls of the international community to halt violence. Following the
Security Council presidential statement on 3 August, he took note of the strong statements
from the King of Saudi Arabia and other states in the region. He had noted with great interest
the Minister's extensive discussions with President Assad and Foreign Minister Mouallem
the previous week, and his statement yesterday. He asked whether the Minister could tell him
more about these meetings. Prime Minister Erdogan had mentioned a deadline for progress
within 10-15 days. He enquired about the Foreign Minister's assessment of the situation on
the ground and of the thinking and strategy of the Syrian Government. The Secretary-General
further asked what the Minister saw as the next steps and what the international community
could do to stop violence in Syria and advance reform that would meet the legitimate
demands of the Syrian people. He indicated that he had talked to the President also, and that
just the day before, the Syrian authorities had agreed to allow access to a UN humanitarian
team. He hoped the team would be granted access to all areas affected by violence and would
be able to assess the humanitarian needs of the Syrian people and provide assistance as
needed. He regretted that the human rights mission had still not been agreed to, although it
had been mandated by the Human Rights Council. The human rights team had nonetheless
met with refugees and witnesses in third countries. Their findings are extremely worrying
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and could suggest that the scale and nature of the abuses over the past months may be
tantamount to crimes against humanity. Through public statements and in his latest phone
call with President Assad, the Secretary-General had reminded the Government of Syria that
it was accountable under international human rights law for all acts of violence perpetrated
by its security forces against the civilian population. The High Commissioner for Human
Rights would brief the Security Council on the following Thursday [18 August]. This was a
situation of mutual concern, and he therefore wanted to talk to the Foreign Minister.
Foreign Minister Davutoglu replied that he was very happy to talk to the Secretary-
General, and that his call was very timely. He had intended to call him after his recent trip to
Syria. He believed the Secretary-General could play an important role and the crisis was
becoming more internationalized. The Foreign Minister recalled that in January, he had gone
to Syria with the Prime Minister and that they had predicted what would happen. They had
urged President Assad to implement reforms. Assad had agreed, but had not done anything.
In April, Davutoglu had gone again to Syria and had given Assad a list of reforms that he
needed to implement immediately. The President had agreed, and had even made a public
speech describing the reforms he would take. But again, he had done nothing.
During his last visit the previous week, the Foreign Minister had met with President
Assad for six hours, three and a half of which were spent in tete-I-tete. Davutoglu had told
Assad that the reforms were too slow and that this had created mistrust in the Syrian people,
in the region and in the international community. He had made promises that he had not
fulfilled and Davutoglu intimated to Assad that the time to act was now. He also underlined
that there was no more patience in the region or in the international community. He also
mentioned that the pressure in the Security Council was rising. Davutoglu said that nobody
could understand why Assad would launch a military operation on llama, a densely
populated town, during the holy Muslim month. When Assad explained that the operation
was in response to armed groups operations that had killed several police officers, Davutoglu
had replied that it was fine to take measures to protect the police, but that he needed to
choose more appropriate means of doing it. He reminded Assad that today, the humanitarian
and human rights situation were not matter of national sovereignty. He also pointed out that
nobody believed Assad's narrative on the Hama attack and that the only way for him to
regain credibility was to let in an international commission.
During the tete-it-tete, the Foreign Minister had told the President that he had been
worried for a while, but that he was even more worried then. He told Assad he had two
alternatives: The first alternative was to implement reforms that he needed to announce
immediately, with a strict timetable. The Turkish Government was ready to support such a
process — not the President but the process — and to talk to the opposition. The second
alternative was to continue like this, but that this would lead to the international community
isolating him, like Saddam Hussein and Colonel ICaddafi were isolated. The Security Council
was worried. Several members had been calling Turkey seeking their advice. So far, they had
been told to hold off, but there was a limit and Turkey would not tell them to wait anymore.
Turkey could not tolerate such violence right next door. Davutoglu specified measures that
Assad would need to take: withdraw tanks from Hama — Assad agreed; let international
media in — Assad agreed, but Turkish media first. At this point, the Foreign Minister objected
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to the idea of Turkish media being allowed first and insisted that all the international media
should be allowed at the same time. Mr. Davutoglu also suggested that the President
undertake significant legal reforms, based on a draft that Turkey would provide; conduct
elections for a new Parliament that would draft a new constitution. At the end of the process,
a referendum would be held. Assad would need to be ready to leave power. He also reiterated
that Assad would need to make a public speech very soon explaining these measures and
committing to a specific timeframe. Assad agreed, but asked that Turkey refrain from making
any announcement before he had a chance to talk to the Beath part and to the opposition. He
didn't want to look like he was making these reforms under pressure from Turkey. Davutoglu
and Assad had then agreed on clear roadmap along these lines. The Turks had then been in
touch with a number of countries, such as US, France, Russia and Egypt, to tell them about
the agreement and to hold off further measures for a few days.
For the first few days, Assad had implemented the measures they had agreed to. He
withdrew the tanks from Hama (the Turkish Ambassador had been able to go and witness it
for himself); and the media had been allowed in Syria, even to Hama. This had led him to
make a positive statement. However, since then, there had been reports of tanks being
deployed to llama again, and of a new operation in Latakia that was even worse than the one
in Hama. Secretary Clinton and President Obama had been in contact with the Turkish
Government to inform them that President Obama was about to make a speech on Thursday
in which he would call for Assad's departure. Prime Minister Erdogan had called President
Assad to express his concerns about the situation and to encourage him to make his speech as
soon as possible. Assad said he would talk to Beath on Thursday and make his speech on
Sunday. The Prime Minister had indicated that Sunday was too late, and that he would not
have any credibility after Obama had made his speech.
Foreign Minister Davutoglu said that it would be good if the Secretary-General could
talk to President Assad to encourage him to make his speech tomorrow [Wednesday). He
could tell Assad that he had been briefed on the agreed roadmap by Davutoglu, and that the
pressure in the international community was rising. Davutoglu indicated that if Assad didn't
make his speech and didn't implement the roadmap, he was worried. Turkey would not stay
silent anymore. The credibility of the international community was on the line, the Syrian
people was suffering. Their Ambassador had heard very sad stories when he had visited
Hama. The human rights situation was very serious throughout Syria. He was also very
concerned about the attack on Latakia, as it was apparently even worst than the attack on
Hama (Turkey had sent people there). Davutoglu said he didn't believe any statement or
information that came out of Syria anymore, as they issued contradictory information. He
also didn't believe that President Assad knew all the details of all the operations. Davutoglu
reiterated his concern about the human rights situation throughout the country and
encouraged the UN to send a mission to the refugee camps that were in Turkey. The Turkish
Government would allow access to such a mission — they were not allowing access to
anybody else to the camps.
The Secretary-General undertook to call President Assad and thanked the Foreign
Minister for all his efforts. He turned the conversation to the flotilla. He reminded the
Minister that the Panel on the 31 May 2010 incident would transmit its report to him on 22
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August. He had been working hard for one year to find a solution. He had agreed to postpone
twice the submission of the report because of the importance of reaching an agreement. The
Secretary-General believed that in the current regional context it was critical that Israel and
Turkey salvaged their relationship. He very much looked forward to a full restoration of
Turkey's relations with Israel. He enquired whether there was progress in the private talks
with Israel and if the Minister saw any chance for a successful outcome in the next few days
before the Panel submitted its report.
The Foreign Minister thanked the Secretary-General for his personal efforts in this
case. In the current context, it was even more important to keep a positive atmosphere in the
region. Turkey wanted to be able to keep mediating between the Israeli and Palestinians.
They had reached an agreement with Israel a month ago, but it had been blocked by some in
the Israeli government. Mr. Netanyahu had called the Mr. Erdogan the day before to inform
him that there would be a cabinet meeting on Wednesday. The situation was clear for
Turkey: if Israel accepted the agreement, made apologies and compensated the victims, they
would send their Ambassador back to Israel and would not talk about the incident anymore.
On the other hand, if Israel didn't accept the agreement, they would take the next steps,
which were very clear: they would challenge the legality of the blockade in the ICJ, support
the victims in any tribunal in the world, close the Embassy in Tel Aviv, send their navy to the
Mediterranean "to show the Israelis that the sea didn't belong to them". The US State
Secretary and President were both working hard to convince the Israelis to accept the
agreement.
The Secretary-General hoped that these measures would not be necessary. Foreign
Minister Davutoglu replied that Turkey was a country of dignity that could not accept that his
citizens be killed. The international community had not reacted, the Government had to react.
"If it had been Iran or Syria killing people, the international community would have reacted",
he said. The international community was weak, but Turkey would show Israel that it was
not weak. On Monday, when the Palmer report would be issued, Turkey would take the next
steps. "Nobody can stop us. We know what to do", Davutoglu concluded. The Secretary-
General recalled that it had not been easy to convince Israel to the establishment of the Panel.
He had personally been involved in convincing them. He underlined that he had no influence
on what the Panel would say. Foreign Minister Davutoglu appreciated the efforts of the
Secretary-General, but informed him that Turkey would challenge the legality of the
blockade in the ICJ if Palmer said it was legal. The Secretary-General concluded by stating
that the most important was to improve the relations between Israel and Turkey.
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(The conversation ended at 8:52 am)
Astrid Melchner
16 August 2011
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