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From: President <a>
To: Jeffrey Epstein
Subject: Re: Thanks
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 03:45:23 +0000
I agree that something not acknowledged as a treasure needs to be evaluated. But the auction house metaphor
does not quite work--for reasons of actual as well as perceived value, speculation, collection madness, exclusive
ownership. What is relevant is the re-emergence of music in new contexts, so that the evaluation reveals itself in
part in influence (e.g. forms of neo-classicism). Also I am interested in the evolution of musical meaning, and
treasures are not the only purpose of the endeavor. Remember your own enjoyment at listening to Herzogenberg.
Leon
Original Message
From: "Jeffrey E stein"
To: "President"
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 9:33:03 PM
Subject: Re: Thanks
when treasures are "re discovered" . ( not sure the re is appropriate ). it needs to be evaluated ( here you can use
"re" ). it requires close examination to ascertain its new value. the auction house , is a nice way of determing it.
and a long way on its path to recognition.
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:45 AM, President < > wrote:
I am finally home.
First, let me wish you a happy passover; second, thanks for the candor and the friendship. So you won't mind if I
push back.
There are, as I can see it, three issues and if each can be addressed, with a third round of checking, you might
think differently. I have had Lynne send on names.
1) The repertoire. The works we do are worth doing, sometimes because a masterpiece is unearthed, and
sometimes, something good but influential and worth hearing has been revived, and and sometimes as a foil from
history against which we measure our so called greatest hits. In all cases, the works have to be performed and
experienced and therefore performed. And we have a loyal following in the hall and on the intemet. So
something is working.
2) The format of the concerts is a curated one that links music with literature, politics, history--a necessary part
of what music is. In that sense the ASO is totally unique.
3) Botstein and the ASO. The truth is that I have been such a thorn of the side of critics, conductors and
managers that I am not surprised at what you found. But you will find support and real support within the
profession. Pardon the expression but I have not gotten medals and awards for anything but my work in music. I
just got the Bruckner Medal this month (the other recipients have been Toscanini and Walter, among others). And
I got the same Austrian Cross for contributions to music as Sir Simon Rattle--the same year. I hate that stuff, but
there it is.
On 1--again think of Nabokov, whose favorite Russian poets were often obscure figures derided by all the other
critics. He stood alone. The Marschner is beautiful opera and a crucial link between Beethoven and Wagner. So I
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stand in the Quixotic defense of works that are worth it--even if they are not as good as others. Music does not
follow Darwinian patterns (a longer discussion). It is not science. That is, if i may say so, a commonplace; the
idea that history is a judge that seems right but is not. One of the greatest plays was forgotten after the writer
died and rediscovered in the 1920s, 100 years later--Woyzeck. That is just one example.
As to 2, that is one way to build an audience, by linking music to other forms of life--to pretentiously paraphrase
Wittgenstein.
And to No 3) I am still haunted by early criticisms by angry competitors and idiot ignorant critics who hated my
ideas and the fact that I was an outsider with another career in scholarship and education.
That being said, why not give me one last shot at proving the majority wrong. I have been at it for nearly 25
years, and in the next five, if there can be no measured improvement on the execution front--then that will be
that. But 120,000 sales and a Grammy nomination for a rare work--a Popov symphony from the 1930s,--and
more than 20 years of some real success (we have generated a body of new scholarship in music history--is cause
enough to inspire you to give us help.
This is my plea. But I am not Moses, and if there were a God, he would not be on my side. (Another reason to
help).
I greatly cherish this new friendship and I have real admiration for how you go about doing things----tough as it
is often I truly enjoy the argument. But this time I and not your preliminary findings and researchers--am right.
Given the firestorm I created 20 years ago I am even surprised I did as well in your research, whatever grade you
put on the result. It is not the final exam, only a badly constructed mid-term, I am a bit proud not to have gotten a
top grade. True controversy rarely leads to praise in this business. Nabokov became famous and admired only at
the end.
Leon
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