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1 2 3 UNITED STATES GRAND JURY 4 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK 5 x UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 6 -v- : November 19, 2019 Additional 7 GHISLAINE MAXWELL • 8 (2018R01618) x 9 10 United States Courthouse 300 Quaroppas Street 11 White Plains, New York 12 July 8, 2020 10:05 a.m. 13 14 15 APPEARANCE S: 16 Assistant United States Attorney 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 Acting Grand Jury Reporter 25 FREE STATE REPORTING, INC. Court Reporting Transcription D.C. Area Balt. & Annap. EFTA00089439  United States v. Ghislaine Maxwell 07/08/20 1 PROCEEDINGS 2 (10:05 a.m.) 3 MS. Let the record reflect that there are 4 17 grand jurors present and that the foreperson is present. 5 Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. My name is 6 and I am an Assistant United States Attorney 7 here in the Southern District of New York. 8 Can everyone hear me okay? All right. I SP 9 everybody's heads nodding. Thank you. 10 I am here today to present for your consideration 11 a proposed superseding indictment charging Ghislaine Maxwell 12 in six counts. This indictment is virtually identical to 13 the indictment that you returned last week charging Maxwell 14 in those same six counts except that it corrects two 15 clerical errors, or two typographical errors that were 16 contained in Counts Five and Six which are the perjury 17 charges. 18 As a result, I will not be presenting any net,. 19 evidence or new witnesses today. Instead, I will identify 20 for you those two clerical errors in the indictment. I will 21 point out the portion of the exhibits that you saw last week 22 that provide the correct information. Then I will identify 23 the corrected portion of the superseding indictment in the 24 proposed superseding indictment. 25 Before I do that though, I must ask you all the FREE STATE REPORTING, INC. Court Reporting Transcription D.C. Area Balt. & Annap. EFTA00089440  United States v. Ghislaine Maxwell 07/08/20 1 same preliminary questions that we went over last week. 2 First, do any of you believe that you personally know or 3 have met the proposed defendant, Ghislaine Maxwell? I see 4 no hands. 5 Next, have you any heard or read about, or learned 6 anything Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein or anyone else 7 related to this case, if you could just raise your hand? I 8 see a number of hands. Virtually every hand is in the air. 9 You can all put your hands down. Thank you. 10 As you know, you must make your determination as a 11 grand jury based on the evidence presented before you in the 12 grand jury, in this room alone. Accordingly, you must set 13 aside any other knowledge you may have about this case or 14 the people involved in it, and base your decision solely on 15 the evidence presented to this grand jury to determine 16 whether there is probable cause to believe that the charges 17 in the proposed indictment were committed. 18 Is there any grand juror here today who cannot 19 follow these instructions? I see no hands. Just to be 20 sure, is there any grand juror here who would have any 21 difficulty setting aside the outside information you may 22 have about the defendant or the facts of this case? I see 23 no hands. 24 Finally, do any of you believe you know me in 25 anything other than my professional capacity? I see no FREE STATE REPORTING, INC. Court Reporting Transcription D.C. Area Balt. & Annap. EFTA00089441  United States v. Ghislaine Maxwell 07/08/20 1 hands. 2 Now, as I mentioned, I will not be calling any 3 witnesses today. Instead I will present you with the 4 exhibits from last week, the transcript of the testimony you 5 heard from last week and the proposed superseding 6 indictment. I will then walk you through the error that the 7 superseding indictment seeks to correct. 8 Please keep in mind though that what I say is not 9 evidence. Only the testimony of the witnesses and the 10 exhibits are evidence. So as I'm walking you through thesc- 11 exhibits, your understanding of them and your understanding 12 of the evidence controls. I am just trying to provide you 13 with an overview. 14 With that instruction in mind, I am going to put 15 up onto the Elmo what was previously received and marked as 16 Grand Jury Exhibit 1. That is the proposed six-count 17 indictment that you voted to return last week. A copy of it 18 will be available for review when you deliberate. 19 You also received what has been marked as Grand 20 Jury Exhibit 2, which I will not put up on the Elmo. That 21 was a PowerPoint presentation containing photographs and 22 excerpts of certain documents that was shown to you during 23 the testimony last week. You also heard testimony from FBI 24 Special Agent- 25 Today I am marking, as Grand Jury Exhibit 3, FREE STATE REPORTING, INC. Court Reporting Transcription D.C. Area Balt. & Annap. EFTA00089442  United States v. Ghislaine Maxwell 07/08/20 1 copy of the transcript of that testimony. It is up on tnr 2 Elmo now and it will be available for you to review if you 3 would like as you deliberate. I will not read it back to 4 you now, but you can read through it as you deliberate. 5 Finally, I am marking, as Grand Jury Exhibit 4, 6 the proposed superseding indictment, which I have now placed 7 up on the Elmo. As I mentioned, this proposed superseding 8 indictment corrects two clerical errors and is otherwise 9 identical to the original indictment, Grand Jury Exhibit 1. 10 I'm now going to walk you through the errors that 11 we're going to correct starting on Grand Jury Exhibit 1. 12 Page 15 contains the beginning of Count Five which charges 13 Maxwell with perjury. Paragraph 21 on that page refers to 14 the civil case in which Maxwell gave deposition testimony on 15 April 22nd, 2016, as 15 Civ. 7344. That is the error we are 16 going to correct. 17 Similarly, page 16 contains the beginning of Count 18 Six which charges another count of perjury. Paragraph 23 on 19 that page refers to the civil case in which Maxwell gave 20 deposition testimony on July 22nd, 2016, under the same 21 number, 15 Civ. 7344. 22 Turning now to Grand Jury Exhibit 2. Slide 22 of 23 that exhibit contains the first page of the deposition 24 transcript from the testimony that Maxwell gave on 25 April 22nd, 2016. As you can see here, the docket number FREE STATE REPORTING, INC. Court Reporting Transcription D.C. Area Balt. & Annap. EFTA00089443  United States v. Ghislaine Maxwell 07/08/20 1 for that case is in fact 15 Civ. 7433 not 7344. 2 Similarly, slide 25 contains the first page of the 3 transcript from the July 22nd, 2016 deposition that Maxwell 4 gave. As you can see here, again, the docket number for 5 that case is 15 Civ. 7433 not 7344. 6 Finally, I will turn to the proposed indictment, 7 Grand Jury Exhibit 4. On page 15, you have again the same 8 perjury count with one change. Paragraph 21 corrects the 9 docket number for the civil case to be 15 Civ. 7433. 10 Similarly, on page 16, which contains the second 11 perjury count for the July 22nd, 2016 deposition, the docket 12 number is corrected to 15 Civ. 7433. There are otherwise no 13 changes to the substance of this indictment. 14 That is my presentation. Before I leave you to 15 deliberate, would anyone like me to read the full proposed 16 superseding indictment out loud? I see no hands. 17 I must advise you that you must independently find 18 probable cause, again, for each count in the superseding 19 indictment. The evidence before you in support of the 20 charges in the superseding indictment is the same evidence 21 that was before you when you considered the indictment last 22 week. 23 Does anyone have any questions about that 24 evidence? I see no hands. 25 The legal instructions that you received before FREE STATE REPORTING, INC. Court Reporting Transcription D.C. Area Balt. & Annap. EFTA00089444  United States v. Ghislaine Maxwell 07/08/20 1 voting on the indictment last week are the same instructions 2 that apply to your consideration of the proposed superseding 3 indictment. Would anyone like me to read those instructions 4 out loud for you again? I see no hands. 5 Does anyone have any questions about the legal 6 instructions? I see no hands. 7 I will leave you now with the exhibits to 8 deliberate. As always, if you have any questions or 9 concerns about the proposed indictment, please let me kno.v, 10 before you vote so that I may answer any questions you may 11 have on the law, or bring any additional evidence before you 12 to consider. Thank you, all. 13 (Matter concluded) 14 (Time Noted: 10:14 a.m.) 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 FREE STATE REPORTING, INC. Court Reporting Transcription D.C. Area Balt. & Annap. EFTA00089445  1 CERTIFICATE 2 3 I hereby certify that the foregoing is a true and 4 accurate transcription, to the best of my skill and ability, 5 from my electronic notes of this proceeding. 6 7 July 22, 2020 Date 8 Acting Grand Jury Reporter Free State Reporting, Inc. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 FREE STATE REPORTING, INC. Court Reporting Transcription D.C. Area Balt. & Annap. EFTA00089446