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To: Jeffrey Epsteinljeevacation©gmailcom]
From: Lesley Groff
Sent Thur 1/9/2014 10:43:21 PM
Subject: Fwd: Jeffrey Epstein-Invoice?
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From: Joseph Thakuria
Date: January 9, 2014, 5:36:33 PM EST
To: Lesley Groff <MINIIMINIMIM>
Subject: Re: Jeffrey Epstein-Invoice?
Lesley, sorry for the delay on my end. On top of work, travel and the holidays,my
laptop was out of commission because of problems with the mgh encryption
program used to protect patient data for over 1 week which really set me behind
on clinical work - as well as this invoice.
With some calls over the next few days I should have it wrapped up by Monday. If
not, provide quotes on Monday for what I think would be worthwhile pursuing
and leave placeholders for anything that still needs follow up on.
Joe
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Lesley Groff ‹ > wrote:
Hi Joe. Following up with you ... When do you think you might have an invoice
ready for Jeffrey? I would love to be able to give him an idea.
Thanks so very much, Lesley
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:01 PM, Joseph Thakuria > wrote:
Hi Lesley,
Sorry about the delay on this. Things have been more hectic than
usual with the holidays and being short-handed in the hospital and fin
still waiting on a few things related to the iPS lines and
bioinformatics vendors/platforms. I also have some travel planned.
Can I get this invoice to you and Jeffrey sometime during the week of 12/30 when
things will have started to settle down?
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Thanks,
Joe Thakuria
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Lesley Groff <MIIMI > wrote:
Hi Joe! Thank you so much for this! I have passed along to Jeffrey
your findings...lets see what he has to say ...
Thanks again,
Lesley
On Dec 12, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Joseph Thakuria ‹ >
wrote:
Hi Lesley,
Sorry I've been swamped with clinical work. We don't
have a fellow this month so I've been in the hospital
until late every day this week.
Realistically I won't be able to provide a detailed
invoice until early next week but here's the general
update:
1. I don't think donating sequencing of patient genomes
or exomes will be an option anymore. I think it will be
too difficult to clear by mgh. And all the patients I had
in mind were seen through mgh. Met you know if this
situation changes.
2. For whole genome sequencing in a clia lab, I think
the best bet is to get this done directly through Illumina.
The cost for this is $5-10k but I'll run various options
by him. They offer just the raw data as well as 2 types
of analyses. I think he should do all 3 but I'll include
more details in the invoice. (I'm still discussing with
people from illumina and waiting for some calls back.)
3. In terms of analysis, since Jeffrey has said cost is not
an issue, the best route in my opinion would be to
analyze across several of the genomic analyses tools
currently available. Though it's not critical to analyze
across multiple tools, it's a new enough field that a)
they each have their own pros/cons, b) I don't think the
illumina analyses (both options) provides enough
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features for in depth analyses (this might seem
surprising - but shouldn't be - since they're much more
focused on their sequencing instrumentation business
over analyses tools), and c) comparing results across
the different ones for concordance is worthwhile. I've
honed in on 2-4 I think are worth using and will tally up
the costs in the invoice.
4. Individualized cell lines: Jeffrey already has fibroblast
cell lines from the skin biopsy done for the pgp.
Induced pluripotent stem cells (adult stem cells) can be
made from these. They can also be induced to
differentiate into various cell types including neurons
(which would otherwise, of course, be difficult to
obtain and study in a specific individual). I'm getting
itemized costs but getting to iPS cells costs around
$10k and the process takes about 6 months (because of
the multiple cell passages needed in the protocol).
(Success of course isn't guaranteed either.)
All this work should fall within or just a bit over the
$30k or so Jeffrey mentioned over the phone. Payment
can be made by your group directly to the various
vendors once you have that info. As I discussed with
Jeffrey on the phone, I won't personally accept money
and any effort I contribute to this will be pro bono.
And, this goes without saying, but with respect to the
vendors, these are just suggestions so Jeffrey should
feel free to use other vendors if he has other
preferences.
I'm happy to go through his genome pro bono using the
analyses tools his genomic data from illumina will get
loaded onto once it's available. I'm also happy to
reassess as well in a year to try and incorporate any
new data that may be available relevant to his genome.
At that time, there may also be additional data to
generate and analyze from studying his iPS or other cell
lines. On that front, it may also be interesting to do a
genome on his fibroblast cells (which we currently have
unlike the iPS cells). I wouldn't expect to get additional
medical info from that but it helps give a handle on
mutations that are present in the fibros and not him -
and later in the iPS cells but not native cells. (And,
therefore, give you a handle on how accurately these
cells will reflect normal physiology when further
studied.) At some point we can compare his white
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blood cell genome to fibroblast cells to iPS cells and
other derived cells.
Some of this hassle, such as needing multiple vendors
for sequencing and analyses, just comes with the
territory of being an early adopter. This will get cheaper
and the process should be more straightforward over
time. And while no one can guarantee benefit from
genome sequencing, especially in someone relatively
healthy, there is the possibility of reaping benefit as an
early adopter before others if something medically
actionable is discovered in his data. (We'll also
concentrate our analyses on those 56 genes the ACMG
recommended checking even in healthy individuals).
More to follow and apologies for the delay on the
invoice. You can see I've been looking into it though
and there are still a few moving pieces. I'm sorry about
the news on funding patient sequences. Jeffrey sounded
excited about that possibility. His genomic data should
be interesting though and even if it's of limited use now,
he'll be able to go back and reanalyze the data in the
future as more is collectively learned in this field.
Best,
Joe
PM, "Lesley Groff'
> wrote:
Hi Joe...can you please give me the ETA for Jeffrey's
invoice? I'm sorry to keep pestering you, but Jeffrey
has asked that I stay on top of this...it is quite
important to him.
Any update would be tremendously helpful.
Thank you,
Lesley
A i n Jeffrey Epstein
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