DOJ-OGR-00007256.pdf

--- Page 1 --- **Document Header** * **Case Number:** 1:20-cr-00330-PAE * **Document Number:** 467 * **Filing Date:** 11/15/21 * **Page Number:** 77 of 158 **Transcript** * **LBAAMAX3ps** * **THE COURT:** So in a sense what the field, the scientific field tell us is that there are scenarios that help create an aura of trust and respectability, and then one could, using some common sense, figure out what specific examples might fall within that? * **THE WITNESS:** Sure. Or there is literature to say, you know, where, for example, do we find that perpetrators access victims? And so we know that they end up in leadership roles in various kinds of child organizations -- counselors, schools, Boy Scouts, church. So -- * **THE COURT:** But those phenomena are discussed in the literature. * **THE WITNESS:** Those phenomena are discussed in the literature. * **THE COURT:** OK. Thank you. Go ahead. * **MS. POMERANTZ:** Thank you. * **Q.** We've been talking about whether grooming only be done for the benefit of the person doing the grooming. What if anything in scientific literature addresses the concept of grooming not having to be done for the benefit of the person doing the grooming? * **A.** So the article that we had spoken about earlier, looking at dynamics of coercive control, which refer to some of the strategies and dynamics that commonly occur in the context of grooming, we can see that coercive control, which are **Footer** * **SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.** * **(212) 805-0300** * **DOJ-OGR-00007256** **Note:** The image appears to be a page from a court transcript, likely related to a case involving child grooming and coercive control. The conversation between the court and witness discusses the concept of grooming and its relationship to coercive control. The witness references an article that explores the dynamics of coercive control in the context of grooming.