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From: "Jeffrey E." <jeevacation@gmail.com>
To: Richard Kahn
Subject: Re: Larry G550 flight school with B430 and GIV for Dave & Bill
Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 21:12:29 +0000
Pay
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 5:00 PM Richard Kahn < > wrote:
i was able to negotiate an additional 2,000 discount on larry from 59,400 to 57,400 and an additional
1,900 discount for both dave and bill hammond from 64,500 to 62,600 for a total discount of 5,800 or 3.1%
total cost 182,600 provided we prepay for all
unfortunately information originally presented by Larry on 4/20/2017 was not accurate (see bottom of attached
email chain) as larry inferred that Syn Vision 4,700 and CPDLC 7,300 were included in Flight Safety pricing
larry is eager to get dave and bill started on training and securing slots
i am unaware if Simuflight includes these two additional costs and note that Simuflight is 40k for G550 initial
yet recurrent for GIV is not clear (i have not spoken with vendor as larry is very firm on using flight safety)
larry mentions that flight safety is more rigourous and fails people however when i spoke with gregg he said
failing is rare and it would be hard to fail dave knowing he works on Larry's team
please advise if ok to proceed and with or without extras as per pricing below or shall i call simulflight to
obtain an accurate picture of cost differential
thank you
Larry V
G550 / B430 $57,400
CPDLC. $ 7,300
Syn Vision. $ 4,700
Total LV $69,400
Dave Rodgers
G550 / GIV. $62,600
CPDLC. $. 7,300
Syn Vision. $. 4,700
Total $74,600
Bill Hammond
G550 / GIV. $62,600
CPDLC. $. 7,300
Syn Vision. $. 4,700
Total. $74,600
Total without CPDLC and Syn Vision 182,600
Total with CPDLC and Syn Vision 218,600
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Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
Begin forwarded message:
From: Larry <>
Subject: Re: G550
Date: May 25, 2017 at 11:13:49 AM EDT
To: Richard Kahn
Rich
Jeffrey asked me the difference between FSI FlightSaftey and CAE Simuflite training, since its a $20k
difference between schools.
FSI is a more Regimented and Harder to pass a pilot with lower than average skills, FSI would not offer a
Type Rating class to due to her experience level. I've seen 3 pilots in my classes held back for more
training, I've trained the past 10 years at FSI,. Dave attends CAE,. It's time for all of our pilots to be test
properly. It's the difference between Harvard and a Community collage.
Here is what i come up with total training, pls advise if approved?
Definitions:
CPDLC = Controller-Pilot Data Link Communication.
Syn Vision = Synthetic Vision.
HUD = Heads Up Display, included in G550 initial training.
EVS = Enhanced Vision System, Included in G550 initial training.
Larry V
G550 / B430 $57,400
CPDLC. $ 7,300
Syn Vision. $ 4,700
Total LV $69,400
Dave Rodgers
G550 / GIV. $62,600
CPDLC. $. 7,300
Syn Vision. $. 4,700
Total $74,600
Bill Hammond
G550 / GIV. $62,600
CPDLC. $. 7,300
Syn Vision. $. 4,700
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Total. $74,600
Total training with FlightSaftey
$218,600
Thank you,
Larry
Sent from my iPad
On May 25, 2017, at 10:31 AM, Richard Kahn < wrote:
i did not see your response or may have missed it..
can you please be specific on additional training needed along with cost so i can present to jee total cost
thank you
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
On May 25, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Larry Visoski c wrote:
Hi Rich,.
I thought I copied you on my response to Greg in reference to enhanced training„
Below is Greg's response and reduce pricing for
CODLC„
HUD and EVS included in initial„
See below email Trail
Thx
Larry
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
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From: Richard Kahn
Date: May 25, 2017 at 10:15:32 AM EDT
To: Larry Visoski
Subject: Re: G550
Yes but you never responded or communicated if any ancillary courses are needed.
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue, 4th Floor
On May 25, 2017, at 9:41 AM, Larry Visoski c wrote:
Hi Rich,.
I'd like to get closure on G550 training and pick class dates.
Are you satisfied with Greg's counter offer?
Thx
Larry
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From: "Williford, Greg" 5
Date: May 23, 2017 at 3:47:25 PM EDT
To: Larry Visoski
Cc: Richard Kahn , "McCann, Suzanne"
Subject: RE: G550
Hi Larry and Rich,
Here are your special rates for the G550 Ancillary courses, if needed:
EVS - $0 (covered in the G550 Initial)
HUD - $0 (covered in the G550 Initial)
Enhanced Navigation (CPDLC, WAAS, ADS-C) - $7,300 each Normally $9,500 under One Time
or Two Event
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Gulfstream Synthetic Vision - $4,700 each Normally $7,500 under One Time
or Two Event
Gulfstream XM Aviation - $445 Normally $555 under One Time or
Two Event
Please advise on which of the above you'll need based upon your particular serial number and also which
account you'd like the training to be on.
All the best,
Greg
Greg Williford
Regional Sales Director
FlightSafety International
From: Larry Vlsoskl mallto:
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 11:47 AM
To: Williford, Greg
Cc: Richard Kahn; McCann, Suzanne
Subject: Re: G550
Ok pls include Special pricing for EVS/HUD and CODLC training for Mr Kahn to approve
Thx
Lany
Sent from my iPhone
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On May 23, 2017, at 11:40 AM, Williford, Greg < wrote:
Hi Larry,
Full Service covers a few of the "nice to know" enrichments like cold weather ops, TAWS, CFIT, etc. and Full
Service also gives discounts for many of the ancillary courses. However, the Two Event program is not Full
Service and covers two specific events per pilot. That said, with the commitment you and Rich are making
to FlightSafety for all three pilots, we may be able to provide the Full Service rates for the ancillary courses
like Enhanced Nav and Synthetic Vision, etc.
Attached are fact sheets on Enhanced Nav, Synthetic Vision, XM Aviation Weather and CPDLC eLearning.
Let me know if you wish to take any of these or other ancillary courses and I can include your special prices
in the Agreement.
I'm available by phone if like to discus.
All the best,
Greg
From: Larry Visoski mailto:
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 11:24 AM
To: Williford, Greg
Cc: Richard Kahn; McCann, Suzanne
Subject: Re: G550
Thx Greg„
Yes we have HUD and EVS„
Also need advanced Navigation course for CPDLC as well„ is this done on Line or in Classroom
format?
On May 23, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Williford, Greg < wrote:
Hi Mr. Richard,
Great to speak with you again yesterday and thank you for this opportunity to be of service.
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I have discussed your counter proposal with our team and we are able to come very close to meeting your requests:
1. We are able to offer you a G550 Initial with Bell 430 Recurrent within 14 months for Larry at $57,400
each
2. We are able to offer you G550 Initial with Gulfstream G-IV Recurrent within 14 months for your other
two pilots at $62,600 each
3. We will prepare a contract for all three pilots for your signature. Upon signing, we will create invoices
for each pilot and ask that the three invoices be prepaid ($182,600 total) before the first training session
for the first pilot on the schedule.
Our G550 Initial course covers HUD and EVS. Please advise if the unit you have purchased has Enhanced Navigation,
Synthetic Vision and/or XM Weather and we can get you pricing for those courses.
Lastly, we have at least three different accounts set up for your current airplanes and will need to consolidate the
training for all three pilots onto one. When you are ready to move forward, please advise which account will be best
for the scheduling, contract and billing and we will send you the Agreement for Training under that account to cover
your special rates.
Please let me know if you have questions and if I can be of assistance in any way. We truly appreciate your business.
All the best,
Greg
Greg Williford
Regional Sales Director
FlightSafety International
Begin forwarded message:
From: "Williford, Greg"
Subject: RE: G550
Date: May 22, 2017 at 8:08:28 AM EDT
To: Richard Kahn
Hi Richard,
I was on vacation Thursday and Friday....sorry I missed your calls and email. I'm in the office today and looking forward
to speaking with you. Please call me whenever convenient at 770.452.8887 or let me know a good time to reach out to
you.
All the best,
Greg
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Greg Williford
Regional Sales Director
FlightSafety International
From: Richard Kahn fmaitto
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 3:50 PM
To: Williford, Greg
Subject: Re: G550
i just called your office and cell
can you please call me on my cell when you have time so we can hopefully move forward together
thank you
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue, 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
On May 18, 2017, at 9:22 AM, Richard Kahn < wrote:
good morning
happy to hear that you and lany have again been in touch
i am meeting with our principal today as he wants to make a decision on this by the end of the week
can you please review your pricing and agree to move forward as follows:
Gulfstream G550 Initial with Bell 430 Recurrent within 14 months - $57,500 each pilot
Gulfstream G550 Initial with Gulfstream G-IV Recurrent within 14 months - $62,000 each pilot
discount requested 1500 + 2500 + 2500 = 6,900 or 3.66% of 188,400 total cost
i strongly believe we can make this happen with above prices
please advise
thank you
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Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
Begin forwarded message:
From: Larry Visoski <IIMEM>
Subject: Fwd: G550
Date: May 15, 2017 at 5:38:52 PM EDT
To: Rich Kahn , Je vacation <jeevacation@grnail.com>
From FlightSaftey
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From: "Williford, Greg" <1
Date: May 15, 2017 at 8:12:36 PM GMT+2
To: Larry Visoski
Cc: "McClendon Wood "Martinez, Melanie"
, "Parrish, Vincent"
Subject: RE: G550
Hi Larry,
Great to hear that the G550 deal came through. We look forward to being of service for all your training
needs.
As you know, we have several pricing options, including the Two Event/13 Month contract (2 sessions per
pilot within 14 months). The Two Event program offers additional discounts off the One Time pricing by
prepaying the two events at the start of the contract period. We can "mix" aircraft types under the Two
Event pricing option as long as the training and contract is all with one account.
Listed below are your prices for 2017:
TWO EVENT
Gulfstream G550 Initial with Bell 430 Recurrent within 14 months - $59,400 each pilot
Gulfstream G550 Initial with Gulfstream G-IV Recurrent within 14 months - $64,500 each pilot
Please let me know if you have questions and if we can be of service in any way.
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All the best,
Greg
Greg Williford
Regional Sales Director
FlightSafety International
Office
Cell
Original Message-----
From: Larry Visoski mailto:
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 3:55 PM
To: Williford, Greg; McClendon, Woody; Parrish, Vincent; Martinez, Melanie
Subject: G550
Hello Greg„
I have 2 pilots that require;
G550 initial training,
And GIV Reccurent„
Can you price this for me?
I need G550 Initial plus Bell 430 recurrent myself„ Can you present a full package to sign with Flight
saftey with above Request?
Thx
Larry Visoski
Plan D, LLC G550
Jege LLc GIV
Hyperion Air, LLc Bell 430
Sent from my iPhone
Rich
Yes Dave, Bill and I have completed Training in GIV in past 12 months,. Greg Williford is with Flight Saftey,
he didn't realize I trained with simuflite this past year
My plan was to send Dave Rodgers to Flight Saftey for G550 initial,
I was planning to send Bill Hammond and myself to simuflight,. For cost savings„
I told Jeffrey that Flight Saftey has a more thorough flight training program that Dave would benefit from,.
Plus not everyone passes the course at FlightSafety much more stringent,.
If we want to save $20,000 per person in training cost we all could attend Simuflite if you like?
Larry
Simuflite CAE GIV recurrent training March 2017,. Due GIV in March 2018.
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Dave Rodgers
Simuflite CAE trained Aug 2016,. Is due for recurrent Aug 2017.,
William Hammond
Trained FlightSatfey
July 2016,. Is due for ReCurrent July 2017.,
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 25, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Richard Kahn > wrote:
ok
larry can you please provide last GIV training dates (dave, bill and yourself) as i believe i was told by greg
wilford of flight safety that we may have to do separate training for GIV if GV not done either within 12
months or 1 month thereafter..
i just informed jee of this but did not have dates and need to verify timing
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
On Apr 24, 2017, at 6:50 PM, jeffrey E. leevacation®gmail.com> wrote:
i think it best that we wait , until closer to the itme the plane is ready from erics i dont want dave or larry
to have 4 months between training and flying
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 6:21 PM, Larry Visoski c wrote:
Rich
CAE Simuflite offered G550 initial at $40k each,.
Here is Contract info;
Brian Laird - CAE
Thx
Larry
Sent from my iPhone
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On Apr 24, 2017, at 5:34 PM, Richard Kahn wrote:
just spoke with greg and he said you negotiated the best deal possible
list for initial and recurrent is 121,000 which he then reduced to 91,000 and then again to 77,500
unfortunately after 2 phone calls and almost 2 hours on the phone no such luck
can you please send me simuflight contact info as well as they are at 65,750 for initial and recurrent
thanks
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
On Apr 21, 2017, at 9:30 AM, Larry Visoski c wrote:
For Sure,. Definitely worth a try;
Try this person first,.
Flight Saftey sales rep;
Gulfstream Sales training
Gree Wilford
Woody McClendon is my Bell 430 Heli sales rep„ and close acquaintances„ nice guy„ he understands
ne otiations and hel s me out,.
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 21, 2017, at 8:34 AM, Richard Kahn < wrote:
Jee wants me to give negotiating a shot. Please send me contact info and call to discuss game plan.
Thanks.
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue, 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
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Begin forwarded message:
From: "Jeffrey E." <jesios@gmail.com>
Date: April 20, 2017 at 6:44:37 PM EDT
To: Richard Kahn
Subject: Fwd: G550 training Dave May 1st
make a deal for three pilots. all recuurent with recurrent 430 for larry
Forwarded messa e
From: Larry
Date: Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: G550 training Dave May 1st
To: "Jeffrey E." <jeevacation@gmail.com>
All prices quoted from Simuflight or Flight Safety is considering 3 pilots for G550 initial class.
Simuflite Price is $40k for G550 Initial class,.
Following year, re-Current training is $25,750
Bell 430 item,
This was Flight Saftey quote for me, which included the Bell 430 re-current and G550 initial, price
is $59,400 which is 550 initial and Bell 430 recurrent,. I would need a G550 recurrent the next
year, which is an additional $25k.,
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 20, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Jeffrey E. <jeevacation®gmail.com> wrote:
it says bell 430? how much was simuflite and what is the price for 3 people
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 4:32 PM, Larry Visoski c wrote:
Jeffrey
"Flight Saftey" in Dallas has start date May 1st G550 initial class. Ends May 23rd, which
includes Check Ride, Advance Navigation course w/CPDLC, and Synthetic Vision class that
includes Sim time using HUD "Heads Up Display" and EVS "Enhanced Vision System" ops in
the Simulator.
Single time event is $62,100 for Initial.
Dual event which covers 24 month is $77,500
After Initial training, the following year Recurrent G550 training is $25,700
Option
1-Do you want Dave to do Single event Initial for $62,100
Or
2- the two year program which is G550 Initial and includes Next years Recurrent training total
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$77,500
Option 1 or 2 ?
Thx
Larry
Hi Larry,
Congrats on the pending purchase on the G550 and thanks for your email.
We'd like to amend the proposal we sent to you on February 3rd with the following special Two
Event prices for 2017:
TWO EVENT AGREEMENT
Gulfstream G550 Initial with G550 Recurrent for the same pilot within 13 months - $77,500
each pilot
Gulfstream G550 Initial with Bell 430 Recurrent for the same pilot within 13 months -
$59,400 each pilot
As discussed, we don't offer G-V with G550 differences and only offer G550 training in our
G550 sims due to safety concerns based on discussions with GAC, our customer advisory
boards and customers. The prices above will cover the "type specific" G550 and Bell 430
training.
Please let me and/or Woody know if you have any questions. We look forward to being of
service.
All the best,
Greg
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