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From: Lawrence Krauss
To: J <jeevacation@gmail.com>
Subject: Fwd: Krauss settlement agreement - revised draft
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 03:11:53 +0000
Attachments: retirementletter2—jd_redline.docx
justin's version
Lawrence M. Krauss
Professor
School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department
Arizona State University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287.1404
Research Office Assistant (Jessica):
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Begin forwarded message:
From: Justin Dillon
Subject: Re: Krauss settlement agreement - revised draft
Date: October 14, 2018 at 6:48:34 PM PDT
To: Lawrence Krauss
Lawrence,
Thanks for understanding. Here's my fairly substantial redline of your letter. The more I read this, the more
nervous it makes me, despite the fact that I agree with every word of it. Even if you don't take my tone-it-down
edits, I do think you should keep my cuts on much of the substance. The more of a merits rehash this is, the
less of an impact it will have. But it's your call.
Thanks,
Justin
Justin Dillon
KaiserDillon PLLC
1401 K Street NW
Suite 600
0005
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On Oct 14, 2018, at 9:14 PM, Lawrence Krauss wrote:
Thanks Justin, for doing this, and for this note.
I have revised somewhat my retirement letter so that I think it is ready to go.. I am going to print it and go
over it. I would like everything to be ready so I can pull the trigger whenever things are ready, even when
traveling. If you could go over this some time and let me know if you see any potential bombshells etc, I
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would appreciate it. I added PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL to the top which I hope should help. In any
case, let me know. I certainly won't send it, even after we sign, until I have your ok.
I hope the rest of your evening is peaceful.
Lawrence M. Krauss
Professor
School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department
Arizona State U x 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287.1404
Research Office: Assistant (Jessica
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On Oct 14, 2018, at 5:59 PM, Justin Dillon < wrote:
FYI. I apologize for the error—I had two versions open when were were making these changes while I was
sitting in my car, late to pick my daughter up from a birthday party. I knew something like this would
happen, which is why I wanted to get it out earlier and why I was so angry that we kept tinkering on what I
felt were minor points. But it's my fault, and it still shouldn't have happened. I am sorry I yelled, but I have
been single-parenting all weekend and driving all over God's green earth for much of it. I was fine with
working late Friday night, and fine going back and forth with drafts and doing phone calls as we did
yesterday. I was even fine with doing all of that again this morning and this afternoon. But not getting it out
by the time I had to leave and knew I would be gone for four hours was just the straw that broke the camel's
back. One of the things that makes me good at my job is that I take everything personally, including my
clients' problems. Today, you saw the downside of doing that. Anyway, I'm sorry, and I will let you know
when I hear back from Kim.
Justin Dillon
KaiserDillon PLLC
1401 K Street NW
Suite 600
Washington DC 20005
www.kaiserdillon.com
Begin forwarded message:
From: Justin Dillon
Subject: Re: Krauss settlement agreement - revised draft
Date: October 14, 2018 at 8:52:10 PM EDT
To: Kimberly Demarchi
Kim,
I apologize, but I accidentally attached the wrong version. This correct version omits "due to Krauss's
decision to retire" from Paragraph 2, makes a parallel change in Paragraph 1, capitalizes Agreement, and
fixes a few typos.
Thanks,
Justin
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Justin Dillon
KaiserDillon PLLC
1401 K Street NW
Suite 600
Washin ton DC 20005
WWW. aiser i on.com
On Oct 14. 2018. at 4:32 PM, Justin Dillon wrote:
Kim,
My redline is attached. I think this should address our various concerns, but please let me know what
you think.
Thanks,
Justin
Justin Dillon
KaiserDillon PLLC
1401 K Street NW
Suite 600
20005
NNW
www.kaiserdillon.com
On Oct 13, 2018, at 9:19 PM, Kimberly Demarchi < wrote:
Justin,
I'm still conferring with my clients, but I have some feedback to give you now, which is reflected in the attached
draft.
First, the revisions to the non-disparagement provisions you've proposed aren't going to work on our end. Not
only is ASU too large to effectively guarantee compliance by everyone at the University, but we have strong
protections in both University policy and state law for free speech by faculty, staff, and students in their private
capacity. That's why the original draft specified particular individuals in leadership positions as the ones bound
by the provisions, rather than the entire University. The attached version has some revisions that I hope
address your client's concerns while being feasible on our end.
Second, I've taken out the references to Professor Krauss being a Physics professor as well as in SESE. As a
technical matter, ASU faculty only have a single home department, even when they periodically (or regularly)
teach in other departments, and Professor Krauss's appointment was as faculty in SESE. I've attached his
appointment letter so you can see. We'll need to use the correct language in the agreement and any public
statement. If he'd prefer for the public statement to just say he has resigned his position as a professor (without
specifying the department), that would be fine too — I've made that change in the attached so you can see what
the statement looks like without referencing the specific department.
Lastly, the feedback I've gotten so far about the list of donors has included some concerns about the catchall
provision you proposed (unspecified donors who went on an expedition). We're looking into the feasibility of
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that on our end, and in the interim I've taken the catchall provision out. If there's more specificity you can
provide about how many donors are in this catchall category, or more names for the list, that may be helpful.
Would you let me know your client's position on these issues, and I'll present the final agreement for approval
by ASU leadership?
Thanks,
Kim
From: Justin Dillon
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 2:45 PM
To: Kimberly Demarchi
Subject: Re: Krauss settlement agreement - revised draft
Kim,
Here's my redline. If ASU will agree to this, we are prepared to sign today. Please feel free to call me at
if you would like to discuss anything.
Thanks,
Justin
Justin Dillon
KaiserDillon PLLC
1401 K Street NW
Suite 600
Washin ton DC 20005
www.kaiserdillon.com
On Oct 12, 2018, at 4:04 PM, Kimberly Demarchi wrote:
Here's the Word document. I've reached out about the extension and will get back to you.
From: Justin Dillon
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 12:56 PM
To: Kimberly Demarchi
Subject: Re: Krauss settlement agreement - revised draft
Also, would you mind sending this to me in Word so I can redline as needed?
Thanks,
Justin
Justin Dillon
KaiserDillon PLLC
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1401 K Street NW
Suite 600
20005
Mi.
www.kaiserdillon.com
On Oct 12, 2018, at 3:08 PM, Kimberly Demarchi wrote:
Justin,
I'm writing to follow up on our conversation and correspondence yesterday regarding the proposed
settlement.
ASU is willing to agree that any funds donated by the Brown Foundation that remain unspent may be
transferred from the ASU Foundation to another non-profit organization, if the Brown Foundation so
directs. At this point, I've been able to determine that there is a total of $1,209,479.32 on deposit with the
ASU Foundation for the Origins Project's operating expenses. Some of that may be from other donors, so it
is possible that not all of it would be transferred. But whatever is attributable to the Brown Foundation
would be transferred, provided that the Brown Foundation directs the ASU Foundation to do so and tells it
what nonprofit should receive the funds.
Although I do not agree with your analysis, we will agree to remove the reference to the ADEA from the
release paragraph, which should put an end to the discussion regarding whether it is necessary to provide
your client with a review period or the option to revoke.
ASU is not willing to extend the retirement date beyond May 2019 or make additional payments, nor is it
willing to transfer the funds in its local accounts to another institution.
I have attached a revised agreement along these lines. I am available for discussion as needed.
Best wishes,
Kim
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