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31E-NY-3027571 Serial 186 -1 of 7- M1M20teir.54.1M FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of entry 07/30/2019 was interviewed at . Present for the interview was . After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agents and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: remembered that when she was approximately 15 years old, EPSTEIN would no longer take her physically • • III. EPSTEIN did still allow to recruit other girls for him, even though she herself was not allowed to massage him. She remembered being told by EPSTEIN that she could get in trouble if she talked to law enforcement because she had helped recruit other girls. If approached by law enforcement she was to not talk to them, and call a particular lawyer that was represented by EPSTEIN. recalled speaking with lawyers of EPSTEIN's that told her if she spoke to police and told them the truth, so in return she lied and told them that EPSTEIN was a good guy. stuck up for EPSTEIN in court and lied about what she told him her age was. believed she was tricked into being "on the wrong team". She felt she needed to help EPSTEIN because they would regularly scare her . EPSTEIN's lawyers would make feel as though she was doing the right thing. She felt that if she helped EPSTEIN, that in return he would help her. felt as though she was on his team because she was "a baby" and didn't know what she was doing. O ne day her friend asked if she would like to make Inewigatirm on 07/14/2019 at , United States (In Person) File! 31E-NY-3027571 Dated:AM 07/15/2019 by This document contains neither recommendation. not conclu ms of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents ate not to be distributed outside your agency. 3501.149-036 CONFIDENTIAL Page I of 7 EFTA_00068645 EFTA01246987 FD-302a(Rev.5-8-10) 31E —NY-3027571 Serial 186 31E —NY-3027571 Continu.stion of FD-30.1of (.1) Interview of .On 07/14/2019 .page 2 of 7 $200. told her, "This guy on the island...we go to his house...give him a massage...very rich man". agreed to go. The next day, was driven to EPSTEIN's house by friend (an older guy) with . She recalled wearing a half sleeved red tank top, with jeans and heels. She remembered turning onto Brillo Way and thought his house was amazing. told that EPSTEIN was going to play with himself under the towel. They were greeted by someone at the door and brought upstairs. They walked into his bedroom, through the bathroom, steam room and into the massage room. There were lots of nude/sexy photos all over the walls. There were lots of lotions and a massage table in the room. was told to wait in the room for EPSTEIN. was with for the start of the massage, in which they started to massage EPSTEIN's legs. eventually left alone with EPSTEIN. remembered being very nervous as she was only about 13 years old at the time. She believed she was 13 because remembered wanting to be the best. EPSTEIN directed to massage his legs, and then his back. At first, she had her clothes on. He either told her to take her shirt off, or to take the straps down, but he wanted to see her breasts. EPSTEIN had down to wearing her panties only. She recalled him very calmly directing her to remove clothing items. was sure that EPSTEIN touched her "down there" and "all over". He would "jack off" under the towel, then get up and tell her to go downstairs. was given $200 the first time she went, and was told that she could make an additional $200 for each girl she brought. She does not recall who paid her the first time. Sometimes EPSTEIN paid her, sometimes sometimes upstairs, sometimes downstairs. Sometimes the money was left out on a table or a dresser. After the first massage, EPSTEIN told that he wanted to see her again. stressed that she wanted to be the best for EPSTEIN, and did not want the other girls she brought to be better than her. She felt as though being the best, and working for EPSTEIN was going to make her a model. later learned EPSTEIN had a routine for the new girls that came. The recruiter would bring the girl upstairs to him, and they would start massaging him together. Soon after the massage started, in a very calm manner, EPSTEIN would tell the recruiter to leave the room. Often, 3501.149-036 CONFIDENTIAL Page 2 of 7 EFTA_00068646 EFTA01246988 FD-302a (Rev. 5-&10) 31E-NY-3027571 Serial 186 31E-NY-3027571 Continuation of FD-302of (En Interview of .on 07/14/2019 ,page 3 of 7 would be there to give the girls gifts like bikinis. often saw lots of exotic women at his house whom she believed to be models. EPSTEIN made believe that she was going to become a model by doing this job. expressed that she always wanted to be a model. recalled massaging him a lot, and trying to go almost every day in the beginning. had lots of friends but just wanted to make money. hoped to one day become one of the girls living and working inside of the house. asked every girl she could to go to EPSTEIN because she wanted to be the best and loved making money. would tell the girls that they could make a lot of money together. would show the girls all the cash that she carried. She would tell them that they would make $200. felt as though the girls knew how much money she made, and because thought that they wanted to be a part of it as well. She also felt as though her influence on these girls was very powerful, and they listened to her. Not all of the girls she recruited would she initially tell them what would actually occur inside the massage room. In addition to recruiting girls from would recruit fron , which was known as a very nice area. This area had lots of pretty girls and approached all of them. was known for that remembered meeting EPSTEIN a year prior to that when she was 13 years old. thought that EPSTEIN was probably being forceful with her, but at the time did not realize it. There were times that was totally naked with EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN would try to make every girl comfortable by not being too pushy. However, if he really liked a girl then he would push them to get naked. believed she could tell when EPSTEIN really liked a girl by the way he acted towards them. He would be the one to initiate getting the girl's clothes off. As time went on, EPSTEIN would get more aggressive with his words during the massages. He would says things like "take it off" or "I just want it off, so take it off". He started using long white vibrating massagers during the massage (similar to one you would buy at "brookstone"). 3501.149-036 CONFIDENTIAL Page 3 of 7 EFTA_00068647 EFTA01246989 FD-302a (Rev. 5-840) 31E-NY-3O27571 Serial 186 31E-NY-3O27571 Continuation of FD-302of (En Interview of .on 07/14/2019 _page 4 of 7 was made by EPSTEIN to use it on herself and he would get aroused. The massages would end with EPSTEIN facing up, touching everywhere and "always my vagina & breasts while he was releasing himself". EPSTEIN liked his nipples to be squeezed. cannot recall if she was ever asked to play with his penis. She does recall that there were times she was on top of the massage table. After EPSTEIN would "cum", he would get back in his robe and quickly exit. Then, the girls were escorted out of the house. Typically, they were to leave right away but sometimes they were allowed to hang out for a bit. recalled working for EPSTEIN for some time before she really started making a lot of money. Eventually started running out of girlfriends to recruit. She would often recruit from parties. She contemplated making recruitment fliers for school. believed that everyone to this day knows that she was his recruiter, and because of that it destroyed many friendships. Sometimes, EPSTEIN or would call to ask her to come in to perform a massage. would say things like "Can you come in to see Jeffrey" or "Can you come to give Jeffrey a massage". would sometimes call to make an appointment for massage. Typically, would answer the phone, or sometimes an unknown male. They would then in return leave out a note for or EPSTEIN to call back. would typically say on the phone, "Hi, this is ; I have someone for Jeffrey". would then go on to describe what the girl looked like. would also describe the girl to EPSTEIN directly the next time he saw her inside of the massage room. recalled at first telling EPSTEIN that she was 16 years old, and that all of her friends were 16 and older. Over time she learned that he wanted younger girls. She knew this because one time brought an 18 year old girl and EPSTEIN got mad. He told to not bring her again. He had several rules for bringing girls to his house, including no girls with tattoos, no black girls, no girls who had children and no girls that were too old. EPSTEIN wanted girls that were age, and she began to understand this because of what he requested and what he rejected. stopped going to EPSTEIN's house when the FBI came to her door. was about 3501.149-036 CONFIDENTIAL Page 4 of 7 EFTA_00068648 EFTA01246990 FD-302a (Rev.5-840) 31E-NY-3027571 Serial 186 31E-NY-3027571 Continuation of FD-302of (En Interview of .on 07/14/2019 ,page 5 of 7 17 years old at this time. EPSTEIN was her main source of income at this time; she was bringing girls to him about two times a week. Not all of the girls brought came back a second time. EPSTEIN did not take the phone number of all of the girls. If the girls had families, EPSTEIN often did not want their phone number. estimated she brought approximately 100 girls to EPSTEIN. wanted EPSTEIN to know how independent she was. She recalled regularly using a taxi service who's phone number is This taxi service would sometimes pick up at . During the time period worked for EPSTEIN, had lived at multiple locations which this taxi service may have also picked her up from. On occasion, EPSTEIN would send a car to pick up . Sometimes, would pick up reiterated that she did bring girls to EPSTEIN, but he did not want her to massage him. would bring girls to his house by either picking them up in a friend's car, using a taxi or a driver. The girls would sometimes first go to house prior to going to EPSTEIN's. would make sure that girls were dressed up. would calm the girls down and tell them she would go upstairs with them. When she would go upstairs with them, sometimes she would stay with them the whole time, and other times she would leave them. Often, EPSTEIN would want to talk to privately to ask "who else do you have". He would ask her to describe the girl to him. would tell him things like eye color, and that they go to the same school. He would reiterate no black girls, no girls with tattoos and no older girls 17 and up. He would ask, "Is she your same age; is she younger than you". would say the girl was 16 years old. remembered one girl in particular named whom she believed to be 12 years old. states was younger than her. The average age of the girls that would bring was 14 years old. She knew that because they were her age at the time. recalled bringing "so many girls"...-, , (known to law enforcement as recalled bringing the girls up to the room, massaging his legs together and then she would leave the room, and wait downstairs. She would often wait in the kitchen, or by the pool. She recalled the chef teaching 3501.149-036 CONFIDENTIAL Page 5 of 7 EFTA_00068649 EFTA01246991 FD-302a (Rev. 5-&10) 31E-NY-3027571 Serial 186 31E-NY-3027571 Continuation of FD-302of (D) Interview of .on 07/14/2019 ,page 6 of 7 her how to carve tomatoes, and put crab meat in the middle. still carves tomatoes to this day the same way. would talk to some of the models in the house during this time. She knew she would get paid $200 each time. Some of the girls did not know ahead of time that EPSTEIN was going to "release himself" and would in return get mad at was open to touching. • would get aggravated if EPSTEIN gave his phone number to other girls. was a very well put together woman. She had short blonde hair, and was very nice to was older than the girls coming to the house. She was nice to them, and knew how to talk to them and make them feel comfortable. There was another girl who was often seen at EPSTEIN's home. She was very tall, beautiful, European and was thought to be a model. believed they both lived at the house. massaged one of them, and believed it may have been set up by would say things to like "you know what Jeffrey likes". knew that • was in high school; it was very clear. is not sure if she and ever had a discussion on what occurred inside of the massage room. EPSTEIN would talk about New York to knew he had an island and knew he often flew to Europe. knew that there was something wrong when the calls started to become less. Eventually, someone called from EPSTEIN's house and told that something is going on, and requested that be on EPSTEIN's side. believed this call came from his attorney. This attorney asked to come and meet him. • thought that she was going to be rewarded by EPSTEIN for agreeing to be on his side. This attorney prepped on what to say during a deposition. He told to make sure it is known that she was over 18 at the time and make sure that is very clear. She was to say that anyone she spoke with relating to EPSTEIN knew she was 3501.149-036 CONFIDENTIAL Page 6 of 7 EFTA_00068650 EFTA01246992 FD-302a (Rev. 5-8-10) 31E —NY-3027571 Serial 186 31E —NY-3027571 Cominu.stion of FD-302 of (V) Interview of .On 07/14/2019 ,page 7 of 7 of age. is told that if she testified that she will not be bothered anymore and that EPSTEIN thanks her for being on his side. This was the same attorney that eventually was on record with during her deposition. During this deposition, lied and said that she showed EPSTEIN a fake ID proving she was at least 18 years old. Presently, admitted that she has never had a fake ID. At some point after being initially approached by this attorney, the FBI showed up at house. About a year after testified, she recalled going to a friend's house who told her that she was suing EPSTEIN. asked if there was money involved and then requested to be involved in that. That case was eventually settled. Since EPSTEIN's arrest in July 2019, has not watched the news or read the paper because she does not want this to consume her. All of the details of experiences with EPSTEIN were not discussed during this interview. 3501.149-036 CONFIDENTIAL Page 7 of 7 EFTA 00068651 EFTA01246993