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FILE NUMBER: 31E-MM-108062 DATE OF TAPE: 07/19/2006 TIME OF TAPE: 09:21 P.M. TYPE OF TAPE: RECORDER CASE AGENT: SA E. TRANSCRIBED TAPE BY: DATE TYPED: 02/23/2007 PARTICIPANTS: BBLOHLAVEK GJ - GRAND JUROR ABBREVIATIONS: (UI) - UNINTELLIGIBLE (IA) - INAUDIBLE (PH) - PHONETIC (SC) - SIMULTANEOUS CONVERSATIONS MM15-TRANSCRIPTS-000013 3501.092-009 CONFIDENTIAL Page I of 21 EFTA_00062078 EFTA01246089 LB: Alright. Could you tell us who you are? lam LB: How old are you M? 16. LB: What's your birthday? LB: How old were you in February of 2005? I was 14 still. LB: 14 or 15? I was 14 still. Well this happened I was 14 still. LB: You turned.... 15 in May of that year. LB: And you just turned 16. Yeah. LB: So you were just short of 15. ■ Hrtn,mmm. LB: Alright. Where do you live? I live in Loxahatchee. LB: Where do you go to school? Pm gonna be starting school at Seminole Ridge High School. LB: OK. That's the new high school out in .... In Loxahatchee. 2 MM15-TRANSCRIPTS-000014 3501.092-009 CONFIDENTIAL Page 2 of 21 EFTA_00062079 EFTA01246090 LB: OK. Where did you go to high school in 2005? Royal Palm. Where is that? In Royal Palm. LB: On what road? Okeechobee Boulevard? Yeah. Probably. LB: What grade were you in, in 2005 when you were in Royal Palm High School? I was in 9th grade. LB: Did you know someone named =? Yes. LB: How did you know - I used to date her cousin. LB: OK. How old is=? At the time I think she was 18 or 19. I think.. LB: Who was her cousin that you dated? • LB: Was going to school at Royal Palm or did you know her from outside the school? a I knew her from outside the school. LB: How much contact did you have with I met her the night before I went to Jeffrey's house. LB: OK. Tell us the night about the night when you met 3 MM15-TRANSCRIPTS-000015 3501.092-009 CONFIDENTIAL Page 3 of 21 EFTA_00062080 EFTA01246091  I was with my boyfriend at my house and her or his aunt lives like four streets down from mine so we went to say Hi to his aunt and stuff and he left us there and .... LB: Have you met her before that night? Ah, like a family football thing, like they had a family get together for a football game and she was there but I just said Hi to her, like I never knew like who she.... LB: Not a lot of conversations or .... We were just like Hi, Nice to meet you. LB: OK. That night you go down there. You meet her what happens? Yeah, and then, ah, it was just kind of like a regular night and we are hanging out watching TV and then like it was like 11:30sh or 10 something like that and she was like, ah. what are you doing tomorrow and I said nothing and she was like, Oh, I'll, lunm, mmm you want to make like $200. And I was like, yeah, sure and she was like, Well you are you gonna have to like ah, meet my friend Jeffrey and he lives in a big humongous mansion and like he lives like on the water and all that stuff. And then I was like, like that's really cool and then she's like but you have to give him a massage for like 40 minutes and that's all you have to do and you get like $200 for it and its really easy, you know. I was like OK, or whatever its just a massage and then. was like, ah, he was wanderin happened and then vve just told him and then he was like arguing with and then him and went to the bathroom for like a couple of minutes to argue. And had like her boyfriend there so me and him were stuck in like a living room watching TV, listening to them arguing for,* of minutes and then they came back out. Then we went outside and had called Jeffrey on the phone and Jeffrey's assistant lady, I don't remember her name, she answered the phone and she said that she had somebody that could give Jeffrey a massage tomorrow and the lady asked how old I was and who I was like what my name was. But said that I had to be 18 so she told the lady I was 18 and that I went to Royal Palm, and I was a Senior and everything and 'till the assistant lady said like OK, that's fine, come in tomorrow. So, ah, then I went home.... LB: Let me stop, you there, a couple of things. Do you know if and. were, what they were arguing about? Yeah, because didn't want me to go, because I guess, he knew about like his cousin kind of did that already and, ah 4 MM15-TRANSCRIPTS-000016 3501.092-009 CONFIDENTIAL Page 4 of 21 EFTA 00062081 EFTA01246092 LB: Did that concern you that didn't want you to go and you were agreeing to go anyway? U Well, yeah, 'cause, well he was, I was like, I guess 'cause I was 14 and he was like 16 and stuff and he was just like don't go, don't go, don't go and I was like, well it's $200 and I was 14 and I was like it's $200 so I didn't really care what he said. LB: OK, and from listening to end of that phone conversation, the person at Jeffrey's house was trying to verify that you were at least 18? Mum, mmm. LB: OK. Is that a yes? Yes, sorry. LB: OK • And but like after she hung up the phone with the lady, she explained to me that what, we went back inside the house and she explained to me that I was gonna have to like, tell the lady, like make up a lie about my whole life, like if I went, I'm graduatinilm Royal Palm already that I am18 and all that stuff and that I have known for a long time like just to make it look like I was older and, uh, so I agreed to do all that stuff and then I went home for the night and then the next morning, and another lady like another teenager girl, I don't remember her name, she was in the truck with her and like we were leaving my house and but my dad saw and he, I told him we were going to the mall in Palm Beach and my dad's like "OK", he didn't have a problem and since it was or cousin and he said it was OK that I was going with but he, like we were leaving and my dad was coming the opposite way pulling into my driveway and he saw and asked for 5 dollars for gas so my dad said like "Yeah, sure 5 dollars" whatever and then we left and then when we got to Jeffrey's house.... LB: Do you know Jeffrey's full name? Jeffrey.Epsteen or Epstein. Where was the house? It's in Palm Beach, whatever, but then when you pull up in the driveway but nobody was there like is like, "He's not home". So we walked up anyway, we all get out of the car and there is like a gate that you have to walk into to go to 5 MM15-TRANSCRIPTS-000017 3501.092-009 CONFIDENTIAL Page 5 of 21 EFTA_00062082 EFTA01246093  the backdoor and there is like a Security Guard or whatever and he has like a little office in the back and he saw us so he came up to the gate and he asked us what we were there for an said Jeffrey and so the guy is like "Ah, OK". He opened the gate, all three of us went in like through the back door towards the kitchen 'cause I guess the kitchen is right there when you open the door, so we were sitting like in a bar like this and we were waiting for about 15 minutes, then Jeffrey and the Assistant walked in through the back door also and then that's when I first met Jeffrey and he shook hands and then the lady also introduced herself too and then ah, the lady was talking to and the other girl for a cou le of seconds and then Jeffrey said who's gonna go first, whatever, and uh, and uh, the other girls is like I don't care and then Jeffrey said how about you pointing to me and I was like OK and then I was like looking back it and laughing and then she was like, scooted her hand to go, she was laughing to and I was like OK. So then we, in the kitchen, it was like a little hallway, not really but it's like a stairway to go upstairs and we were walking up there and the Assistant lady walks me up there and as Jeffrey was talking to them after and then she was pointing out like all these pictures and all the stuff leaving me upstairs like a bathroom, looks like really big though, and like there was two closets and then she went into the one closet and pulled out the massage table and uh, set it out in front of like this couch and then ah, she put like,ah, a little blanket or whatever over the massage table and then she opened up a drawer and there was like a whole bunch of different like lotions for giving massages and she just picked like a couple of them out and just sat in the vanity table, there was a big, big mirror on the other wall, opposite to the massage table and then, uh, and then she told me to get un well not undressed put keep your bra and your panties on and I was like OK and then she said LB: Had told you about that before? a llo, I thought like it was gonna be a massage like you keep your clothes on. Not when I got to in the room that's when the lady like explain what I would have to do. Just to get undressed and keep my bra and panties on and then... LB: And did you that? Hmm, rnrrun. LB: Is that a yes? a Yes. LB: OK. 6 MM15-TRANSCRIPTS-000018 3501.092-009 CONFIDENTIAL Page 6 of 21 EFTA_00062083 EFTA01246094  And then to stay in the room for a couple of seconds and then Jeffrey would be coming in the room any minute. And then Jeffrey did come in the room, he said Hi and he shook my hand again but then he went out of the room and he got just a towel on and then he came into the room again and laid belly down on the massage table. LB: OK. Stop a minute what did this man look like? This Jeffrey Epstein. U Old. (Laughter) LB: How old? Ah, he looked like 50sh maybe, 40sh. LB: OK. Ah, how he was he dressed when you initially met him? Like he was going golfing, he just like alt, Polo t-shirt on and khaki pants. LB: OK and how were you met, when your first went to his house, DRESSED when you first went to his house? U Alt, I was wearing a regular t-shirt, my hollister shirt and just some jeans. LB: OK. What kind of underwear did you have on? U A thong. LB: And the bra, what type of bra? U It was a bra. LB: No special certain type. LB: But thong underwear. Were you uncomfortable getting down to your bra and underwear? Aha, like I was kind of hesitant, I was like sitting in the room for, until Jeffrey came in, like thinking like to myself, well, like what's going on? Like I don't know, I was kind of hesitant but then I just didn't care 'cause I wanted $200 'cause 7 MM15-TRANSCRIPTS-000019 3501.092-009 CONFIDENTIAL Page 7 of 21 EFTA_00062084 EFTA01246095  I wanted to spend it and so I just .... LB: OK, alright. So he comes out and he's in a towel. Start from there. • And he like laid on the massage table, on his stomach and then he told me like I should grab any of the three lotions that she had put down on the table and so I just grabbed one of them and then I just gave, like I sat. First I wasn't sitting on the table because he was sitting on the table and I was kind like, I just stood up and then I started to give him a massage and then he's making conversation asking me exactly what he was gonna tell me to do, like, it was, high school, do you go to and all that stuff, so... L13: Did he ask you how old you were? AM. LB: And what did you tell him? I told him I was 18. And, ah, he asked me like what do I like to do on my spare time and I said I dance and all the stuff and just asked me some small talk. And then he's like, oh, well you don't need to stand up, you can sit on the table and, so I sat on the table and I was giving him a massage and I think the massage was a couple of minutes like 15 or 20 minutes and this whole time we were just conversating about anything and he was telling how he had another house in New York and just all bunch stuff that I was like amused by and then, ah, after like 20 minutes of giving him a massage or 30 minutes or something. It was around that time, he asked me if I wanted to make an extra $100 and alt, all, that he had to use... LB: Before we get there me just ask you a couple things. You said that the Assistant had you undressed. Hinm, mnun. LB: Is that yes? Yeah. LB: Do you remember telling Detective that it was Jeffrey Epstein that asked you to undress? No, I'm positive it wasn't Jeffrey, 'cause he didn't come in the room 'till after I was already in my underwear and my bra. 8 MM15-TRANSCRIPTS-000020 3501.092-009 CONFIDENTIAL Page 8 of 21 EFTA_00062085 EFTA01246096 LB: OK. That's in her report, that's incorrect. Yes. LB: Ah when you talked about getting on the table, do you recall telling Detective that you were actually straddling him and your... Yeah, that's when I got on the table after he, after a couple of minutes. LB: And you were straddling him with your bare buttocks to his bare buttocks. Yeah. Well, kind of there's a towel. Like it was kind of covering his butt but not really covering his butt. It was not really covering his butt but I was laying like on his lower back near his butt but I wasn't on his butt. LB: So if she wrote: You stated you exposed your bare buttocks were touching his bare buttocks. That be kind of correct. LB: OK Yeah, I guessyou can say that. LB: So how long did that go on when you are sitting on top of him? The, until, like the massage part was over and then he is, ah, like asked, well, would you like to make an extra $100 and I said sure. And then he's like but I, I ah, have to like you're not gonna be giving me a massage anymore. It's gonna be something different and I was like, oh, what is it? And then he's like Can I use a vibrator on you? And I said OK. And then, so then he got up and he went to like the, like other room for a couple of seconds, like literally couple seconds and then came back in the mom. And next to the little vanity, big mirror and on the big table, there was on the floor, it was just like the vibrator or what it look like a vibrator to me. LB: What did it look like? It was like purple. And it was kind like a massager but not really. Like it look like a massager but it wasn't really a massager. LB: What was it shaped like? 9 MM15-TRANSCRIPTS-000021 3501.092-009 CONFIDENTIAL Page 9 of 21 EFTA_00062086 EFTA01246097  Ah, like circular on the top and then it was like a handle on the bottom. LB: OK, alright. And then, ah, after he grabbed that, he laid back on the table and, except this time he was on his back and I was partially on the table like half of my butt cheek and my leg was on the table and the one leg was on the floor, like sometimes I put it on the couch. Like 'cause the couch was right here and the table was right there so it's kind of close and I, he told me to keep giving him a massage but to give a massage on his chest. LB: So you're sitting on the table and hes standing up. No, no, he was laying back on the table, but like I was kind of on the table. Half of my butt and my leg was on the table and the other half was like on the couch. LB: OK, but he's laying down now? Ma. LB:, OK. And, ah, then I was giving massage on his chest and he was still talking for a couple of minutes and then he used the vibrator and like that was for like for 10 minutes maybe or so, I think. . LB: Now, I hate, I have to be detailed here. Where was he using the vibrator? What can I say, all over my vagina, I don't know what else to say. LB: OK, alright. Go ahead. OK. And then, after for a couple of minutes, that's what he was doing ked off for like a couple of minutes, ah, like I was still on the table and ah, told me that if he, like if he does that you have to get more money because that's like. He gives you extra money if he jerks off anyway 'cause I guess it's some his rule or whatever.... Had told you that before? Hmm, mm. She told me that like the night that I, like had this whole conversation with her and she told me about it. 10 MM15-TRANSCRIPTS-000022 3501.092-009 CONFIDENTIAL Page 10 of 21 EFTA 00062087 EFTA01246098 LB: OK. So she just didn't tell you were going for a massage. She told you that there you might have to take your clothes off? No. She didn't tell me that I have to take my clothes off but she said that if he jerks off in front of you, then you can get more money. LB: OK. So when he offered the extra $100, you had a pretty good idea what was coming next? Yeah. LB: OK. And, ah... LB: And when yo said jerk off, what do you mean? a He put his hand on his penis and started going up and down kind of fast. LB: OK. Could you see his penis at that point? Aha. LB: Is that a yes? Yes. LB: Alright, go ahead. That went on for how long? a A couple of seconds maybe, like, yeah, like 40 seconds and then ah, and then after that, like the massage was over and he went into the, out the other door, back to where, I couldn't see where he was going 'cause the door was this way and he walked out and I guess he had like, ah, his money behind the door because it only took him a couple of seconds for him to come back in the room and then he opened this money, like this block and give me 300 dollar bills and he told me thank you and then he's like; ah, there's a notepad there next to the couch and he told me to write my name, my number 'cause I had a cell phone at the time and he told me to write my cell phone number down, and ah, how he can get a hold of me and all this stuff. So I wrote my number down, and wrote my name and then after that he just left the room and told me I can get you again and that it was done, I was ova. LB: Did you actually see him ejaculate? 11 MM15-TRANSCRIPTS-000023 3501.092-009 CONFIDENTIAL Page 11 of 21 EFTA_00062088 EFTA01246099  No. LB: Did he not ejaculate or you didn't see that ? If he did, I didn't see. LB: • Alt, do you recall telling Detective happened in a different sequence? No. LB: And that he masturbated first before he put the vibrator on your vagina? Mom, maybe this was like two and a half years ago, so .... LB: OK That could've happened. LB: Do you recall not telling her about the vibrator at all the first time you talked to her? Yeah. I remembered that because I was scared. LB: OK. Why were you scared about that and not scared telling her that he ejaculated in front of you or masturbated in front of you? 'Cause that's his body and the vibrator on my body. LB: So you didn't want to admit that you allowed him to touch you? Yeah. LB: OK. And he gave you $300, you left your number so he can contact you again? Yes. LB: OK. Ah, when you left the mom what happened? You got dressed, did he take you downstairs or did you go downstairs by yourself? I just went downstairs by myself. LB: Who was down there? Was still down there? 12 MM15-TRANSCRIPTS-000024 3501.092-009 CONFIDENTIAL Page 12 of 21 EFTA_00062089 EFTA01246100  Aha. The, was there and the other girl was there and the Assistant lady she might have been there but I don't know, I can't remember but then after that, ah, we left. Like they don't do anything, they didn't, she got money but she didn't do anything. LB: Who is she? did. LB: Do you know how much money got? I think it was $300 too or maybe $200. LB: Do you know what that was for? Not at the time, I, I thought, maybe she did something with somebody else in the house but then I was like thinking. There was only Jeffrey and the lady there, like I didn't think anything of it and LB: So did you learn that she got money for bringing you there? Yeah. I kind of figure that when I got back home like I was thinking about it for a while. And I realize, well, its probably because she brought me. LB: Did you discuss with what happened up in that room? Yes. Then, ah when we got in her truck, ah, at first we were all like, ah, let's go, let's go and spend our money and then she's like, ah, What happened? What did you do? How much money did you get? And I was like, I, I got $300 and I was like, I was excited $300. And she was like, You got 300 what did you have to do with him? And then She told me or I told him or her what I did and then she's like Oh, Yeah, Ah, I've done that too, bla, bla. Like you could, then she told me like, what, what like if you do this, ifs, you usually get that, if you this and then you get that. And she was telling me like all the stuff and then, ah, I was like, ah, like laughing about it 'cause I was like, yeah, thanks for telling me that and I had to take care of my problem and she was like Oh, Sony and then the other girl started laughing too and we all laughed together and then, then we went to TJ Max and she got a purse. I didn't spend any of my money, I kept in my, I wanted to spend it but I didn't want to spend it a TJ Max. I wanted to go to the mall or something, so I kept in my house, like my purse and stuff, and.... LB: Let me sir there. When you are in the car back with going back, did youand discuss doing this again so you can earn more money? 13 MM15-TRANSCRIPTS-000025 3501.092-009 CONFIDENTIAL Page 13 of 21 EFTA_00062090 EFTA01246101  Yeah. I think. We didn't plan it like any certain date, she was just like, we didn't like plan this again, we didn't plan plan it, I was just like, ah, she was like oh, well, if you ever need money again, you can always call me and you can come with me and I said OK. LB: You don't recall telling Detective that you made plans to do this every Saturday so you could get rich? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It wasn't like a plan, plan. It was kind like an imaginary kind a, every Saturday like thing, it wasn't for sure. LB: Ah, did you go back to Jeffrey Epstein's house to give him other massages? ■ I did not While I was on the phone with the Detective, we pretended for 'cause she was on the other line, we pretended that I was gonna go back, but, just that she could say something, but I never did. LB: So you did a control phone call with =7 Aha. LB: Trying to her naked missions? Yes. LB: Is that a yes? Yes. LB: OK. Alright. Was there another reason, you sort didn't go back? 'Cause some people might have found about it or where talking about you? Yeah. That's what I was gonna get to. At school, ah, ah, I had like my best friend and I told her in dance class, 'cause that's my first period. That was my first period, ah, class and I like, right when I got back to school, I had this $300 in my purse with me and I told her like if you ever want to make $300, you can come with me and would take you and I didn't say her name, I said like my friend would take you and all you have to do is give him a massage and stuff and I told her what I did. I didn't tell her everything. I didn't tell her the vibrator part, I just left that out but I told her everything else. Ah, she kind of laughed and giggled and she is like OK, I keep that in mind. LB: Who is this person that you talked? I4 MM15-TRANSCRIPTS-000026 3501.092-009 CONFIDENTIAL Page 14 of 21 EFTA 00062091 EFTA01246102  and = well she was in the conversation but she is like, didn't say anything to anybody. LB: =, who? • LB: OK. She didn't say anything at first until everybody else found out, ah, and then after told the rest of the day goes by and she was telling people like telling everybody in school. And then I was like, I saw her in my Gym class that same day and I just confronted her, I was like, Cool, why are you telling people? And that's kind of my business and I kind of told you to be nice and that's it. Like go around telling people, you are supposed to be my best friend and then she just laughed about it. So we got into altercation in the Gym room. LB: Is that a fight? You got a fight? Yes. We got into a fight and ah, that's when I got to see the Principal's Office, and told why she got in a fight with me and I told why we got in a fight. I kind of, we, at first we kind of lied about why 'cause, or I did and then I just told the Principal she was spreading minors about me. Then I guess, told the Principal, why, like for real, and so then the Principal when I had to go in the room, she's like, minding seeing your purse and I said why and she is like, asked me if I had any money and I said, No, I don't have any money on money. And then she said you don't have to lie, you are not gonna be in trouble, give me your purse. Then I gave her my purse and she found the $ 300 and she asked me how I got it and I said I worked at Chick Fillet. 'Cause at the time, I really did work at Chick Fillet. And, ah.... LB: Why did you lie to the Assistant Principal? 'Cause I didn't think it was like any of her business, like why we were arguing or anything and I thought why would I tell her myself if I if she doesn't really know anything yet. But then she really did know 'cause fl told her. AM then after, like after she took my purse and looked at the $ 300, she didn't believe what I said, like at all. I just kept lying, like saying no like I got from Chick Filet, my work, my work and then she said you don't need to lie, I know what happened and she called my step morn to the school and my step mom came to the school and my step mom saidlike, You didn't get $ 300 from you paycheck, you're lying and that's when like I don't know everything kind of came out and then.... 15 MM15-TRANSCRIPTS-000027 3501.092-009 CONFIDENTIAL Page 15 of 21 EFTA_00062092 EFTA01246103  LB: You didn't tell parents at first but did you lie to them too. I said 1 was doing drugs, and I was stealing them. Like I made up any kind of lie, I didn't want to tell them what happened. LB: Ah, did there come a time when Detective got some messages off your phone? From LB: From M? a M . Yes, oh, after that whole thing, my cell phone was taken away, so yeah, she had my cell phone from that day until she, I moved to Georgia. I think she still has it or does the court or whatever has my cell phone. LB: OK. You talked about telling your mom you were doing drugs or selling drugs. Yeah. LB: Which one? • Both I just kind of, my dad is arguing with me and I just kind of told them: I'm a drug dealer. LB: OK. M, you've had a problem with drugs, haven't you? I did. Not problem, I experimented. LB: Didn't your parents actually sent you away to a rehabilitation center because of it? U To a Family Help Center to be specific or whatever. It was because of that but it was also bee. ay. I had a lot of family like getting along problems like 1 argue with my parents a lot. LB: Were you doing drugs during the time that you went to Jeffrey Epstein's house? The only drug that I did at that time was pot like I smoked it sometimes. I didn't do like drugs, drugs like bad kind of drugs. LB: Ah, do you still do pot? •a No. 16 MM15-TRANSCRIPTS-000028 3501.092-009 CONFIDENTIAL Page 16 of 21 EFTA_00062093 EFTA01246104 LB: Do you have a MySpace.com account? Yes. I have a MySpace. LB: On there, do you talk about doing drugs? No, I don't talk about, there's like a, a, like a little things were it says create like your own thingie and it has questions like a survey, that's the word I'm looking for. A survey about like they just ask questions and it says, have you ever done drugs? And I said, yeah, it's a have you ever done drugs. LB: OK. Ah it asks a lot of questions about you, right? Yes, but I also deleted MySpace and I did a good one. 'Cause thy parents found out. LB: So you have one that wasn't real good. Yeah. LB: That you lied about your age on. Said you were 18 on. No, I didn't say I was 18. LB: Is this your account? (Pause) N0000. LB: Here it says M. Female 18 years old. Lives in Loxahatchee. Yes, but I didn't do this one. All mines have like cool things on the back like, mine, I would never make an ugly one. LB: Twins do have more fun. Yeah, and I have that's like those exact same things, on my old one and it had like not where it says about me in that little sentence. I didn't make that. LB: OK. So when you are talking about that survey, you answered, ah, it says, your choice of alcohol and you put Beer. 17 MM15-TRANSCRIPTS-000029 3501.092-009 CONFIDENTIAL Page 17 of 21 EFTA_00062094 EFTA01246105  Yeah. LB: Do you drink beer? • At parties. LB: M , you have 4 piercings. Not anymore, now I only, I used to have belly button pierced. LB: It takes, ah, you have to be 18 in the State of Florida to have body piercing other than your ears. My dad... LB: How did you get those? My dad took me to get my belly button pierced for my 14th birthday, 'cause like everybody was getting so I begged for it and then I just got my nose pierced ao LB: Did you have to provide identification for your nose to prow you were 18? No, my dad, my dad let me. LB: Your dad, so you didn't have false identification at any time. No. LB: OK, so you said yes to drinking and smoking, smoking pot? a Yeah. LB: There's a question. Do you shoplift? Do you recall what you put for that? a I did. LB: What, did you shoplift? U Like, yeah, a couple of times. LB: Do you recall putting a lot of times on your site? Maybe, this was a long time ago. So 18 MM15-TRANSCRIPTS-000030 3501.092-009 CONFIDENTIAL Page 18 of 21 EFTA_00062095 EFTA01246106 LB: OK, you reported an income of $250,000 on that site. It's a joke, yeah, it's a joke like all my friends do that 'cause it's kind of funny and random and stupid. • LB: So it's not that you are making money elsewhere doing similar activity? No, this is kind of stupid. It's like a joke. LB: Did you ever make arrangements with to go back to Jeffrey Epstein's house in April of 2005? Not when I was with her maybe on a phone conversation like with that Detective. But not ever when I was with her. LB: Did you ever talk to about going back in April of 2005? I really don't think so. LB: Alright, ah, at this point I'm gonna ask the Grand Jurors if they have any questions for you, OK? OK. GJ: Where do you live now? I live in Loxahatchee. GJ: Where? • Loxahatchee. GJ: Did you say you lived up in Georgia? Yes, I moved to Georgia in July with my mother. LB: Your step mother and father sent you up there to get away from the activities down here. No, I moved with my mom when I was with my dad like after this all happened. My mom and my dad were arguing and I didn't like my dad anymore. I just felt living back with my mom. So I moved with my mom and that when I went to the Family Center, like, High (UI), it's what is called. And then after that my mom 19 MM15-TRANSCRIPTS-000031 3501.092-009 CONFIDENTIAL Page 19 of 21 EFTA_00062096 EFTA01246107  planned on moving to Georgia. She's been planning for like two years before any of this ever happened and they finally found the house in Georgia, so we moved. Andl moved with them. LB: OK. GJ: Do you have any idea, did a side of you that what you are doing is wrong? LB: Yeah, I did. GJ: Did you set your goals of not do it anymore? Yes, I don't, I haven't talked to any of those people since that day. And you are well aware that what you are doing to your own reputation? Yes, I do. LB: Are you aware that you committed a crime? Now, I am, I didn't know it was a crime when I was doing it. 'Cause I don't know, now I guess it's prostitution or something like that. LB: Any other questions? GJ: You said you worked at Chick Filett, you were 14 and you worked in a Chick Fillet? Yeah, in the mall. That's when first let you work when you are 14. GJ: OK. And then you are living back now with your father. You moved back. LB: Anybody else in the front row? Second row, yes sir. GJ: You kept saying Jeffrey's Assistant, do you know her name? No, I know that she was blonde haired and she was tall and skinny. I don't remember her name. LB: Yes, sir in the back row. GJ: Ye; Miss did you ever go back to Mr Epstein's on your own? 20 MM15-TRANSCRIPTS-000032 3501.092-009 CONFIDENTIAL Page 20 of 21 EFTA_00062097 EFTA01246108 • No, sir, I didn't. GJ: Did he ever contact you in your cell phone? He never called you? • No, because I got my phone taken away. GJ: Did you ever feel that his behavior was a little strange? • That's what we all joke about in the car. GJ: Did it ever occurred to you that he could have act you up? Now, I think about it and a lot of things could have happened. I thought about it a lot and a lot of different things could have happened. LE: Any other questions for Miss Alright, thank you very much. U Thank you. 21 MM15-TRANSCRIPTS-000033 3501.092-009 CONFIDENTIAL Page 21 of 21 EFTA 00062098 EFTA01246109