DOJ-OGR-00019101.pdf

Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 239 of 262 1950 LC8Cmax7 Rodgers - cross apartment which was bigger? A. Yes. Q. That was on 84th Street? A. Correct. Q. At some point, she moves to 65th Street to a townhouse; is that right? A. Yes. Q. So it's fair to say that all of those residences that I just described where Ms. Maxwell lived were different from the residences where Mr. Epstein lived; right? A. Yes. Q. So at all times from '91 into the 2000s, Ms. Maxwell -- Ghislaine retained a separate residence from Mr. Epstein? A. Correct. Q. Mr. Rodgers, I want to ask you about your sense of a relationship between Mr. Epstein and Ghislaine. Okay? A. Okay. Q. You flew with them on numerous flights; right? A. Yes. Q. And you interacted with them on a regular basis in the '90s and the 2000s; correct? A. Yes. Q. Now, from your perspective, Ghislaine always had an employment role with Mr. Epstein; right? A. Yes. SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00019101